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    Thunderbirds are go? (OE6)

    I'm currently using OE6 at home, but am considering installing Thunderbird. I haven't had any particular problems with OE, but then I thought IE was ok until I tried Firefox! I use OE in conjuction with Mailwasher and my ISP's spam filter, but understand that Thunderbird is pretty good at filtering out junk so may enable me to cut out the "middle men".

    But Mrs Waggers and myself are pretty happy with the way we have OE set up, and aren't keen on "fixing" something that isn't broke. In particular, we share the same OE files and folders, so it doesn't matter whose Windows profile we're logged into, we can check/ read/file each other's email. It took some effort to set that up, so if Thunderbird doesn't (easily) allow the same/similar functionality, I'm not keen to use it.

    So my question, if you haven't guessed already, is - do we or don't we install Thunderbird? What will we gain, and (more importantly) what functionality, if any, will we lose?

    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17>Sorry, I know these types of discussion keep coming up time and again, but it's always useful to hear the latest points of view as I suspect quite a lot has changed since the last one of these!

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    Re: Thunderbirds are go? (OE6)

    I have never been a proponent for OE or LookOut, so I cannot comment on their features, however I am using Thunderbird and accessing 5 totally separate email accounts with multiple folders under each and the mail is being sorted automatically to their respective folders by the use of message filters. I migrated from Netscape 4.x and had no problems (then too I was only using a single email address - with more than 50 folders).
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    Re: Thunderbirds are go? (OE6)

    I have never used OE (mainly due to Woody's strong advice NOT to). I have used Thunderbird for a few years now. I've also used Outlook (the "real" one, not OE). For mail handling, Thunderbird is close to Outlook, but without all the calendar, tasks, etc. add ons. The Junk filter is great out of the box. The filter ("rules") feature is just as easy as Outlook's, and it's not hard to add as many mail accounts as you need.

    There is also an import facility, to help move you mail files into Thunderbird.

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    Re: Thunderbirds are go? (OE6)

    Make sure that you're satisfied with the Import and the Export (in case "Mrs Rumpole" is not wholly comfortable) facilities. Then you should be able to do a test run. You can certainly have all your mail go into the same folders - using Tools|Message Filters for incoming and Tools|Account Settings|Copies and Folders for outgoing. The principles for Windows access are the same as those for OE. You may find that the archiving & back-up possibilities are a little less convoluted than OE. HTH
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    Re: Thunderbirds are go? (OE6)

    Thanks everyone for your advice; I think the best thing to do is to "suck it and see" - I'll let you know how I get on.
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    Re: Thunderbirds are go? (OE6)

    In addition to the advice already given, you can do a few other things. I also use MailWasher as my front-end and have set Thunderbird NEVER to check for messages on the server. After each review of messages in MW, I then switch to TB and click the Get Mail button. That may sound like an inconvenience, but it assures that I don't "accidently" get an email that I'm not at least prepared for.

    Also, while you're trying 'er out, you could (temporarily?) set TB to leave messages on the server so you could continue using OE until you're ready to cut loose from it. I suppose if you do that you should also UNCHECK the box for TB to be your default email program. In any event, the first things you should do when you run Thunderbird for the first time and create that first email "account" is go through the Tools Options completely, as well as the Settings for this Account screens.

    Good luck with your tryout!

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    Re: Thunderbirds are go? (OE6)

    Ok, here's the promised update.

    I installed Thunderbird and imported our folders and settings successfully. However, when it came to sharing folders, it was a no-go. Although TB contains the option to store folders in a location other than the default, and thereby share folders, there was a bug - it kept copying the top-level folder structure into the active user's profile, and pointing to that copy rather than to the shared location. I spent about an hour and a half playing with the settings and trawling through the Bugzilla site looking for a solution, but sadly to no avail. Whilst having a look through TB, I couldn't see anything spectacular in the core application that OE can't do, so I decided to stick with OE.
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    Re: Thunderbirds are go? (OE6)

    Thunderbird has a good Junk Mail Filter and is far less prone than OE to the very nasty exploits that "come down the pike".

    >it kept copying the top-level folder structure into the active user's profile, and pointing to that copy rather than to the shared location.

    It seems you set up all the folders - including the defaults - in the desired shared location. What then is necessary is to start Thunderbird from Start|Run with " -p" (without the quotes but including the space) after the path. Name the profile as suited and point it where suited. A subfolder (with the profile name) of the folder to which you pointed the dialog will be created. The mail store can be wherever you like.

    What I do personally is exit out of the program before creating any accounts, close the application and then swap in my most of my own ("old") prefs.js file - respecting any customisations put in as defaults in the new version. As long as it corresponds to the mail folders structure, the folders will be recognised - in the mailbox order you wish. (The individual folders in a mailbox are always alphabetical.)

    IF you wish to puzzle over this further, I attach my own prefs.js file (re-named prefs.txt). All private information has been renamed, and hopefully it is enough for you to decipher. There may well be more accounts than you yourself have. If so remove them, but [/i]not[/i] the Local Folders account - which is a default. Further explanations freely provided.

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