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    Removing device drivers (XP)

    Not sure about this one. It indicates a procedure to remove drivers that remain after devices have been removed. My computer is relatively new, and I haven't removed any devices, nor did the procedure show that any had been removed. In that respect, I guess it works.

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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    "This means that drivers from devices that you have long since removed from your system may be wasting valuable system resources."

    It is true, but... When you live your house in the morning, are you disconnecting all power adapters, unplugging your VCR an cable box and all other permanently sucking "valuable electric power" devices? Of course not, I guess - because amount of electricity they are using is irrelevant in comparison with total amount you are using in the evening. The same with "valuable system resources" - with the present day computer you can just forget about this problem altogether.

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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    Dennis,
    I tried that procedure and then checked Device Manager for "those washed out icons" that it stated.

    I wasn't sure what it meant by washed out icons and the only ones I saw that MAY HAVE been them were in the "Non Plug & Play" list. They were small triangular grey icons ( quite a number if them ) but I couldn't tell at a glance if they were indeed unused?

    I don't think that the prog actually removes anything, just supposed to SHOW what is unused.
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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    kaplinb,
    There are two schools of thought on this subject. ( i think )
    One says leave everything the way it is and let it all accumulate. It isn't using up MUCH resources or power or whatever.
    The other says if it isn't being used, get rid of it. Why keep all that junk around that's not doing anything for you.

    I belong to the latter. Apparently, you belong to the former. <big>Which is fine and dandy</big> . Do whatever you want to do and be whatever you want to be. I'm NOT criticizing your view at all, here.

    I try to get rid of System Bloat as much as I can without getting carried away to the extreme. That's my point and I'm sticking to it! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16>
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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    I don't really see where a device driver is going to take up system resources if the hardware that it's intended for is not present. In fact, my experience has been that you can severely screw up your machine by removing some of these items unless you understand exactly what they are there for in the first place.

    While I tend to agree with Bob in regards to getting rid of unnecessary bloat, for me these things do not fall into that category. There's little to be gained by removing them, be that disk space or system resources. As such, unless you are experiencing specific problems with devices or other odd behavior, it seems to me that the best course of action is to do nothing until troubleshooting becomes necessary.
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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    Bob,

    I agree. Bloat removal applies to a wide range of "stuff" that accumulates--spyware, registry refuse, temp directories and files, diagnostic files, etc., etc.
    And numerous posts in the Lounge and elsewhere (Fred Langa's newsletter, for one example) refer to steps and programs that can eliminate that bloat. I'm not sure, as I indicated in my original post, that the driver removal link is the most viable, and I'm certainly not recommending it right now.

    As for only showing unused devices, according to the link right-clicking and uninstalling is "supposed" to remove the driver. <img src=/S/question.gif border=0 alt=question width=15 height=15>

    Mark brings up the issue, as does kaplind, of the amount of resources used by drivers. A good point, but I wonder if there's been any study of that issue. I suspect/guess that little is used, as Mark indicates, but I fall back to a "tidy" system (unlike my house, though).

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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    It works excellent in cases of troubleshooting, I know.

    I think I've posted it here, hmmm, lets see ... Oh here it is: <post:=475,091>post 475,091</post:>

    Seriously there is no need to set it permanently in the System Variables. I have myself, not only over the net (Lounge ex. <post:=307,374>post 307,374</post:>, helped one of my brothers with a second hand bought PC this way. Once I had problem with the Nvidia drivers, some years ago, installed but didn't work, uninstall didn't work, had to do a System restore. In the process I found that there were two monitors in the Device Manager, one ghost.

    And if some here at the Lounge - when searching for help with modem, network Card or all these USB gizmos install problem - would try this they could at least rule out some factors. Then I'm the first to admit that it is not easy for a beginner to know if something can be removed.

    So now that it is mentioned in the context of "PC cleaning" it gets a little attention; and for "... still may be sucking up valuable system resources?" I don't believe so, but it certainly can be a problem later. But if no device, why would a driver use resources, in any way that can be measured.

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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    Bob,
    Example of "washed out icons".

    And if for no other use (no need to troubleshoot), one can always use it to see what has been once connected. I do not own any USB memory but at my screenshot I can see one "ghost"; a friend transferred some files to me some months ago.

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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    Argus,
    Yes, I can see the difference now between the icons. At first glance, I was looking for a startling difference but I see it is a subtle thing.
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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    I think you'll find that unattached USB devices show up in the unused device category. So, removing them will just cause a reinstall next time the device is attached. I'd be very leery of a wholesale removal.

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    Re: Removing device drivers (XP)

    Yes, you're right. I guess the deciding factor would be whether or not you wanted to reattach the device again. A wholesale removal--certainly not.

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