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    Windows Defender Beta 2

    Windows Defender (formerly known as Microsoft AntiSpyware) Beta 2 has been released for Windows 2000, XP, & 2003. If is <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15>. Here's the Windows Defender home.

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    Thanks Joe. Just downloaded and installed it. The interface is a little different. A few things I noticed. WD icon does not display in the system tray (this is "by design" according to an MVP on the WD support forum). When checking for updates, the "check for updates" button stays depressed and there is no indication as to whether updates were not required or whether updates have been applied. In the "Software Explorer" section, the Tea Timer part of Spybot displays as "Not yet classified" and although WD is not blocking Spybot, I can't find any way to manually "allow" it. Beta software I guess.
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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    Yes I have also downloaded and installed it on both my PC and my wife's laptop. On running quick scans it found no problems. On running full scans, it found two items on my PC called WhenU.Save Now (which it described as adware) and IGetNet which it described as a browser modifier. Both were in a Zip file that is a backup of files from my wife's laptop. And needless to say it found the same things on her laptop. I selected Remove All to deal with these items, and after a while it came back with a message that removal had failed. Not sure why, or what to do now.

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    I think I know the answer, but should Microsoft AntiSpyware be uninstalled first? I don't find anything on the Microsoft site to that effect.

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    In the Windows Defender (Beta 2): Release notes
    <hr>Windows Defender (Beta 2) will uninstall Windows AntiSpyware.<hr>

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    Hmmh. It got rid of the icon, but there was lots of stuff left in Program Files!

    The full scan takes absolutely ages...

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    Thanks, I missed that.

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    John,

    You can just delete the MSAS folder. The leftovers are definition update files and logs. Most uninstallers won't delete those types of files that are added or changed after the original install.

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    Well, the design for the icon must be confused. It acts differently on different machines. Sometimes not in the tray but sometimes it is. Haven't really tried to figure out a pattern. Just came to the same conclusion you did - its beta.

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    Might want to post this on one of the Windows Defender newsgroups Ian.
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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    Thanks. The curious thing is that I followed up information about IGetNet on Google, and found several sites offering descriptions of what it does and instructions for manual removal, for instance from Symantec. It supposedly adds things to the hosts file, puts several entries in the registry etc, none of which I found. Running Defender again and paying more attention to the files it found a problem with, these were two instalation files for screensavers that my wife had downloaded some time ago, and since uninstalled. So the installation files were no longer needed and I have deleted them.

    I'll assume all is well for now and see what the next scan brings.

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    It sure enough uninstalls the previous one (which in normal case is good)! After downloading and carefully reading the license agreement and install settings I was greeted by a cheerio:
    <hr>Error 1609
    An error occurred while applying security settings. Users is not a valid user or group. This could be a problem with the package, or a problem connecting to a domain controller on the network. Check your network connection and click Retry, or Cancel to end the install.
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    As retry did not work, I clicked Cancel and was ensured

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    The behaviour of the tray icon has changed in this release, it will only display to notify you of an event, there is no option to always display the tray icon. Following feedback (complaints) an option will probably be added to the next release to allow the user to always display the tray icon. See Windows Defender (Beta 2) newsgroups - What happened to the tray icon in Windows Defender?

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    Tony,

    Thanks for the link. It must have been trying to notify me on the PCs where I noticed the icon (the definitions were not yet updated) because later the icon was not in the tray.

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    Re: Windows Defender Beta 2

    Thanks for this info Joe. I installed it without serious problems. It will take a while to see if it is doing what it is supposed to do.
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