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    Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    At some point over the last little while my user name, usually found at the top of the Start Menu, has now been replaced with the rather generic "Main User Account". I'm not sure what, if anything, I may have done to cause this. Any thoughts on how I can get my user name back on the Start Menu?

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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    If you have Tweak UI , select the Taskbar and Start menu section and check Show name on Start Menu.
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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    Thanks, John, that was the first place I looked. That option is checked, so it must be something else.
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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    John, here is some additional information following up on your suggestion.

    I unchecked the "Show name on start menu" option and rebooted. The user name field on the start menu was blank. I re-ran TweakUI and checked the option but the name field still is "Main User Account" (both before and after a reboot).

    My problem is compounded by the fact I'm not sure when this first occurred and what it may have coincided with.
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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    Is it possible that somehow your account has been renamed? Check Control Panel>User Accounts, pick the correct account, and "change" the name of the account (probably Paul) to Paul (or whatever). This "renaming" of the account may solve the problem.
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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    John,

    Your last suggestion fixed the problem. My user account name in Control Panel>User Accounts was indeed "Main User Account". I changed this to my original user account name and, after a restart, the Start Menu user name was correct. I'm still baffled as to how it got changed in the first place. (Of course, I may be having a senior's moment. I could very well have done this myself, trying out some tweak or other!)

    Thanks for your help. I occasionally forget what a great resource the Lounge can be. This is a good reminder.

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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    <hr>I may be having a senior's moment<hr>
    I'm all too familiar with these myself Paul <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> . Glad it worked out.
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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    Now that you have renamed things, what folder(s) do you have listed under "Cocuments and Settings"?

    You may find that you current file and folders for this renamed account are in the "Main User Account" sub folder. Different OEM's used different terms for the first made account. This can cause a lot of people to lose data, because they do not know where the data is when using Windows Explorer in lieu of "My Documents" or "My Computer".

    When I set up a new machine, one of the first things I do is check for these "OEM Default" sub folders and remove them, and make sure that the user accounts that I setup are listed in the sub folders. There are several that are system made, "Default, All Users, Guest, and Administrator (Pro version only). The Administrator account is handled differently in the Home version.

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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    Hi Dave,

    Despite my account name (PaulB) being changed to "Main User Account", the "Cocuments and Settings" folder contains the usual subfolders: Administrator, All Users, Default User, LocalService, NetworkService and PaulB, but no "Main User Account". Even though the account name has been changed, it still uses the original account name in Documents and Settings.

    I verified this by changing "PaulB" to "Main User Account" (again) and restarting the computer. The Start Menu shows "Main User Account". Control Panel > User Accounts shows "Main User Account". Documents and Settings continues to show "PaulB" but no "Main User Account". Documents saved by "Main User Account" are saved in "Cocuments and SettingsPaulB". I have not, to my knowledge, lost any data throughout this saga.

    FYI, this is not an OEM install... I have my own copy of the MS Windows XP Pro CD and have installed Windows myself.

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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    When you create a new account the name is used for both the user name and the full name. The full name is the one that appears on the Start menu, the Welcome screen and in User Accounts screen (Control panel).

    The user name is used internally by Windows; one uses it sometimes when to log on with no Welcome screen, if one have to specify the account in commands etc. The majority of users have both names the same and do not stumble on the difference.

    One common issue is user name with spaces: User name with spaces can be a problem for Windows and applications. First create the account with a name without spaces; the name will be used both as the user name and the full name. Then later change the full name via Control panel User Accounts, now the name with spaces will appear on Welcome screen, Start menu and User Accounts. User Accounts screen only change the full name (there are of course other ways to change the user name).

    As for User Profiles; local user profiles are stored on the system drive in Documents and Settings, and each profile in a subfolder with the user name as the folder name.

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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    Dave,
    What do you mean by:
    <hr>There are several that are system made, "Default, All Users, Guest, and Administrator (Pro version only). The Administrator account is handled differently in the Home version.<hr>
    All XP versions do have a built in, system made, Administrator account. If logged on a XP Home as a user with admin. privileges (computer administrator account) I can certainly find "Administrator" listed among the profiles under Documents and Settings. Then it is a completely different story that you have to log on in Safe mode to use this system made Administrator account.

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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    With the Home version to get to the "Administrator" account, one MUST be in the safe mode, and there is NO Administrator sub folder listed I Douments and Settings see the attachment.

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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    Hi Dave,
    Yes, one must be in safe mode to "get to the "Administrator" account" on XP Home. I have never said anything different in this thread or any other thread.

    Maybe I interpreted your comment about system made; "Administrator (Pro version only)" in some wrong way.

    I have looked at your attachment; yes there is no profile for Administrator. But I don't know, maybe no one has logged on to the built in Administrator account on that machine. On my machine, see attachment, I find an Administrator sub folder i.e. profile when logged on as an ordinary user (computer administrator). I have logged on before as Administrator and there is a very small profile now. The lack of plus sign, can not show sub folders, is the same as if I log on to another Computer administrator account and look at my own profile that is private, i.e. that users files are private and no access.

    Sorry for this slightly of topic, since it's a Pro machine in the question. My main point is the difference between user name and full name.

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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    Thanks, Argus. Your post puts to rest any concerns I had about my problem. But then, it's not really a problem anymore, is it?
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    Re: Nameless User (WinXP Pro SP2)

    Hi Paul,
    Nope, it's not really a problem anymore. But if you are like me, curious, I would wonder why it changed. Well one can forget about it one like.

    By the way I read about this in some good book before, but thought there must be something over at MS. So I just did a Google at microsoft.com and found this:

    Logon Name Does Not Match Name in Task Manager or Under Documents and Settings Folder

    It says that the name on the Welcome screen etc. can be changed and then it does not match the actual account name (what I called user name). I agree with Dave about the OEM Default, which is nothing one want to have. I think it is possible to quit setup without specifying a new user, and since some account must exist, one is created called "Computer owner", "Main user" etc. I have not seen this on my machine however. As to yours, it is even not an OEM.

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