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    Weird Keystroke Effect

    Frequently (say once every day or so) whilst I am typing a document in Word 2000 (I touch type so I am watching the screen) I must push some wrong keys and the result is that irrespective of the caps lock key all the typing becomes upper case. But that is not all - the mouse then automatically selects everything from the top of the page to the point where I click, most of the icons in the system tray disappear and I can not close the program or Windows by normal means - eg Alt + F4, Cntr+Alt+Del, or using the Start menu set to restart.

    I think this is a Windows problem not a Word problem as the same weird behaviour continues in Notepad or any other text editor or any graphics program.

    Two problems - I do not know what keys I am hitting inadvertently and I do not know how to undo the result except by rebooting - which is a slow process as I can only close Windows down altogether and then start again.

    Can any one suggest a solution (other than learning to type better - I doubt that is likely to be easy!)

    NoelM

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    OMG! I thought I was the only one with this problem. For me they are two separate problems:
    About half the time when I type an uppercase 'B' (and never any other letter), subsequent typing appears as if the shift key is stuck down, despite that it is not. Pressing Caps Lock does nothing, but repeatedly tapping the shift keys seems to fix it.
    The other problem is that selecting text or items with the mouse sometimes behaves as if I have already selected the starting point of the selection, despite the fact that I'm not holding down the mouse button or any keys. Clicking the mouse button does not seem to fix this, although I cannot say for sure as it's been a while since I've seen this one.
    The next time the stuck shift key happens (which will be soon, as I type "VB" a lot), I will try out the mouse and see if selecting text has it's starting point fixed (meaning that the problems are related to windows thinking that the shift key is stuck)
    I forgot to mentino that this problem is happening for me on winNT4.0sp6a.

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Sounds to me like you both have keyboard problems.
    Can you try another known good keyboard and see if the problems continue?

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Dear Lief, Thank you for the suggestion - but afraid it did not help. I replaced my keyboard with a brand new one straight from the box but within a few minutes the same problem recurred.

    But a big thank you to Josh - repeatedly hitting the Shift key did indeed restore the computer to proper working. So that at least is progress.

    I tried reproducing Josh's suggestion that Shift B may be involved but no success. Howeever I think he is on the right track as my feeling is that every time the problem occurs I have been typing a key at the bottom left of the keyboard.

    Is it possible that there is a bug in Win 2000 that responds to Cntrl + a key at the lower left?? So far I have not succeeded in causing the problem deliberately though.

    Very happy to try an other suggestions to get rid of this very annoying problem.

    NoelM

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Having read the other posted replies, I thought I'd suggest a different possibility. Do you have the typematic settings in your BIOS turned off? If you are holding down a key too long you may get weird results.

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Thank you for the new suggestion. But my BIOS does not have an entry for typematic! My computer is a Dell Dimension less than a year old. I guess that means that typematic is not turned off??

    Thinking about all this and trying all sorts of things to deliberately replicate it, I think this may be what is happening - I realise that the problem always and only occurs after I have typed an upper case letter - not sure that it is always B - although could be - but certainly one of the letters in the lower left of the keyboard. Is it possible that both myself and Josh are accidentally pressing either the Alt or Control key simultaneously with the Shift and letter key? Would that cause the problem?

    Although I am still trying to replicate that with no success!!

    Any more suggestions? Although if it is an accidental pressing of the wrong key that is going to be difficult to stop!

    Thank you all for your helpful suggestions.

    Noel

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Two articles they may point to something or give you a clue as to what's going on:

    Q211211 WD2000: Table of Contents Entries Appear in All Caps

    The first may give you an idea if you are accidentally hitting an odd combination of keys, the second being the only thing I came across that looked a likely candidate for automatic capitalizing.

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Thank you Leif, that is very helpful. Sure enough when I deliberately hit Control+Shift+A all further text is in upper case. But the puzzling thing is that when I have done it on purpose the other weird behaviour of the mouse - selecting everything above the point at which I click - does not happen.

    All I can do is to use the other keyboard shortcut shown in the documents you sent me - Control + Spacebar - to restore the formatting and to see what happens to the mouse, next time it happens unintentionally.

    I really appreciate your help.

    Noel

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Accessibility Options in Control Panel, allows you to set shortcuts and timeouts for some of the SHIFT, CAPS LOCK, NUMLOCK, CTL keys. You may have turned on some of these features without understaning their implications.

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Thanks Doug, I checked that but I do not have any of the accessibility functions enabled.

    So still a puzzlement.

    Noel

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Unfortunately, Accessibility Options in Win2k are ON by default, even if nothing is checked in its Control Panel. For example, try to hit Shift 5 times and see what's happen. Activate Sounds option in Accessibility - you'll hear warning sound if you accidently hit shortcut combination.

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    Re: Weird Keystroke Effect

    Yukk! I see what you mean! Another little trap set by Microsoft for us innocents.

    I guess where this has all led is that I, and probably Josh as well, are accidentally hitting a key combination that leads to the weird effects we are seeing. I have thurned on the sounds as you suggest so hopefully I will now know when I have hit a key I did not mean to - and may be learn to be a better typist!!

    Thank you very much indeed for the great advice which has at the very least illuminated another dark and mysterious area of the Microsoft jungle.

    Noel

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