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    Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    In the hidden C:Recycler folder I have several large files. 3 of them are dated from last year and total about 180 megs. One is current has is only 85 bytes. I am assuming that this one relates to the Recycle Bin. But as to all these other files/folders, can they be safely deleted? <IMG SRC=http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/scratchchin.gif>
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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    The one that is 85 bytes is actually the recycle bin folder for that drive. Are the files actually in that folder ? What are the files?

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    Joe,

    There are actually 2 other folders which are listed as follows:

    S-1-5-21-790525478-838170752-682003330-500 (9-18-2005)
    S-1-5-18 (7-13-2005)

    I highly suspect that they were created by Norton System Works protected recycle bin which I uninstalled about that time.

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    I presume you have already tried Emptying the Recycle Bin, and this is what is still left?

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    The s-1-5-21-xxxxxxx long names are the acutal recycle bins for each user. The s-1-5-18 is for the local system account. There are other s-1-5-xx special keys. You should not delete any of these. If you want more information on the special keys see hkcu special keys s-1-5-18 - Google Search

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    Joe,

    After looking at quite a number of those Google results, I have to conclude that what they are addressing are actually Registry entries and not the these folders contained within the "C:Recycler" system folder. Yes, I believe that they are folders created for different users, but since I am the ONLY user (account) on this machine and always have been, and I do think they were also related to Norton's "Protected Recycle Bin" utility. The other convincing factor is the dates of these two folders which are many months old. Since they are associated with the Recycle Bin, that would logically mean that whatever files are in them have been deleted and are expendable. Is there something that you might know that would suggest otherwise?

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    <hr>John asks:
    I presume you have already tried Emptying the Recycle Bin, and this is what is still left?<hr>
    I empty the Recycle Bin with CCleaner at least once per day. And many months ago when I had Norton SystemWorks installed, I not only emptied the Recycle Bin but also the "Protected Files" daily as well. That's why I have assumed that these folders with the old dates are leftovers and contain old deleted files which Norton left behind when it was uninstalled...... so very typical of Norton products I have found.

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    You could try turning off the recycle bin for all your drives, and then turning it back on again - that may get rid of these folders for you.

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    Stuart,

    Not sure how to "turn off the Recycle Bin" but what I did do is move the slider all the way to the left, i.e., "0" and then checked the Recycler folder again and those items are still there. I double-clicked on each folder to open it so as to view the files and nothing shows.... empty. Yet, when I right-click on each of these folders and check "Properties" it shows that there are several folders and files. Here is a screenshot of the Properties information for one of them:
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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    I was thinking of right clicking the Recycle Bin, choosing Properties, and then setting the check box for "Do not move files to the Recycle Bin..."

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    The registry entries identify different user accounts. The long registry key values are used to name the folders so things are a little hidden from the normal user. The folder names acutally do relate directly to the different user profiles. Understand that on a typical XP system you'll have at least four user profiles/accounts - the builtin administrator, the system, the local system, the local user you created. I'd just leave those folders alone and not worry about them.

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    Joe,

    Methinks I'll heed your advice and leave them alone. From my own research, before I decided to ask the question here, opinions differed widely. Some said it was fine to delete everything in the Recycler folder and others said to not mess with them. It would appear that the same opinions are held here as well. But it would be prudent to ere on the side of caution in this case, IMHO. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    Jeff,
    The recycler folder is a part of the NTFS installed on your HD.
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    Quote from MS:
    This article describes the difference between the Recycle Bin and the Recycler folder.
    MORE INFORMATION
    When you delete a file in Windows NT Explorer or My Computer, the file is stored in the Recycle Bin. The file remains in the Recycle Bin until you empty the Recycle Bin or restore the file.

    The Recycler folder is used only on NTFS partitions. The Recycler folder contains a Recycle Bin for each user that logs on to the computer, sorted by their security identifier (SID).

    For additional information about the Recycle Bin, please see the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
    136517 MSKB How the Recycle Bin Stores Files

    For additional information about Windows NT security identifiers, please see the following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
    162001 MSKB Do Not Disk Duplicate Installed Versions of Windows NT
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    While this mentions only NT systems, it also applies to 2000 & XP. IF you were to have only FAT32 partitions, you would not see any Recycler folders.
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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    Bob,

    Yep, that's a given that I've assumed all along. So, it isn't the "Recycler" folder itself that I wanted to remove but rather some of the contents of that folder. There was also one additional folder which I have removed which was named, "NProtect", which was clearly part of Norton SystemWorks. The question for me has been whether the other remaining folders/files were also part of Norton SystemWorks' "Norton Protect" function. And if they are/were then their removal would be warranted. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Question about C:\Recycler files (XP SP-2)

    Jeff,
    I would say that the S-1-5-21-xxxxxxxxx folder is NOT part of Systemworks residue but part of NTFS and should NOT be removed. Windows does identify it as a Folder within Recycler and not a file.
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