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    Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    A friend of mine came to me to help restore his operating system. He got someone to load Win XP 64 but it expired so it no longer boots. He does not have the 64 disk anymore. He has the Win XP CD and wants to restore that one to get his PC up and running.

    I started up his PC and tried to install the OS from the CD. It seemed to work partially. After loading the drivers I got the message that it can
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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    VIA RAID disks require a driver that is supplied on a Floppy. You need to press F6 at the appropriate point in the Windows XP installation process and provide the drivers.

    If you don't have the driver, then find the exact model of your motherboard and you should be able to find it on the web.

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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    Thanks Stuart! I'll check on his motherboard and then find the drivers and keep my fingers crossed. I appreciate your help.
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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    If you're feeling froggy, you can create a slipstreamed installation CD that includes the driver and doesn't require you to press F6 during the boot process. I use this method for machines that require it so I don't have to hunt down a floppy should I ever need to boot from the CD for repair/reinstallation, etc.
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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    Have you ever found a way to slipstream SP2 without having an original real XP installation disk from Microsoft?

    I haven't found one of these for ages; all we get are either a 'restore' 'OEM' CD with the original XP on it, or similar but updated to SP1a. That's unless you get SP2 on the 'OEM restore' CD...

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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    If you can find the i386 directory, you should be able to slipstream a service pack into it. Without knowing how the OEM set up the installation process (which Microsoft made customizable for their benefit) it would be hard to answer that definitively. Perhaps a more pertinent question would be "does the OEM support that version on that machine"?
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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    I finally got back to my friend's PC problem. I did find the RAID drivers for his motherboard on the internet and I downloaded it. In the zip file was MakeDisk exe. I ran it but it required a floppy disk and it wouldn't accept a CD-RW drive. I was hoping to create a CD from it instead of a floppy because his PC doesn't have a floppy drive! So I just took all the files and burned it to a CD hoping that during the install it would load the drivers when prompted but no such luck.

    Anyone with any ideas of how to get around this problem?
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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    HI Mark,

    Thanks for the suggestion. I feel your solution would probably help me fix the problem since I ran into another problem that would require it. I found his RAID drivers on the internet but can't installed them from a floppy because he has no floppy drive, just a CD-RW. Prior post in this thread gives more details.

    The slipstream would probably solve my problem but it might be a little beyond my ability though. I'm not familiar with Windows Distribution CD's and the example only shows a Sitcom Image 3112 SATLink Driver and I need to use RAID. And the link in the Notes section of that web site regarding certain drivers for txtsetup.sif is broken which makes me wonder if I have all the instructions I would need if I were to attempt this.

    If I could get past this one problem I think the rest of the installation would work.
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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    It is very easy to slipstream a Windows XP SP2 CD, with extra files if needed, using Autostreamer.

    If you add your RAID drivers to a folder on your Windows CD then I assume you will be able to point to that during the Windows installation, but I have never tried this myself.

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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    Stuart, thank you for the link! I will do some reading and some researching and see if this will work.
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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    If you use Autostreamer to create a slipstreamed XP installation disk then one of the options is for it to pause after creating the files and before writing them to CD. At this stage you can add extra files to the distribution.

    A quick read up on the installation process suggests that typing F6 during installation only gets it to look on a floppy, there are instructions here for how to add your SCSI drivers to the CD, but it looks a bit painful. It is still much easier to do this with Autostreamer than to have to do all the slipstreaming yourself too.

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    It might be easier to buy a floppy disk and install it temporarily during the installation.

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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    Thanks Stuart. I
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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    Stuart, when I get to the point of of adding extra files, do you know if there a specific folder I would need to store the RAID drivers in?
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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    If you have created the CD in a folder called C:xpsetupcd then the drivers would go in C:xpsetupcd$OEM$$1driversRAID (just replace the base folder name with where you actually created the files for the CD image).

    You will then have quite a lot of work to do to modify the Setup files so that Windows will actually look for these drivers, that is why I posted the link to http://www.maximumpc.com/2005/01/how_to_slipstre.html which explains how to find the information you need in the INF file that comes with your drivers, and where you need to insert this information in the i386TXTSETUP.SIF file and what changes you will need to make to WINNT.SIF

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    Re: Downgrade to XP (XP 64)

    Stuart, I tried doing the Autostreamer method. I'm using a WinXP install disk that already has SP2. Autostreamer specifically asks for the location of the Service Pack but nothing else like additional drivers so I left this field blank. It created the ISO file and then deleted the temporary folder where it stored all the information for the ISO file. Please correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like it's good for adding service packs to your installation CD and that's about it. If I want to add drivers it looks like I'll have to do this manually without Autostreamer. Yes/No?

    I'll will quit for tonight and then, if I have time, try to do it manually tomorrow night or the night after. I'll follow the instructions in the link from your last post that looked very helpful. And if that doesn't work I'll have to look around for a floppy drive. Now what does a floppy drive look like? I can't remember. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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