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    Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    This may be an Office issue... heck , it might as easily be a "Chuck" issue... but:

    I was having some loading problems a couple days ago (if you recall I had posted regarding Office taking forever to load), so, ultimately, I went back to one of my backups.

    At this moment everything is running well... starting up, etc.

    Is it just me, my imagination, my messing around, or "normal" for WinXP and Office as well to get real sluggish periodically and need refreshing via re-installs, or backup recovery, or...?

    I don't mind doing it... heck as we all know I'm constantly screwing with something, but is it "normal"?

    'Cause, as mentioned above, right now things are running better than they have for some time, which makes me ask "Why?".

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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    I've been using my current PC for over 3 years now without reinstalling or using system restore, and it's not slower now than, say, a year ago. But then, I don't mess around with my system, I just use it.

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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    Hans:

    I actually guessed as much...

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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    Or to put it another way, once you have everything installed and working, close the door and bolt it <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    <hr>...my messing around... <hr>
    I'm in the same time frame as Hans and I only have an occasional problem. Sorry to say, I think you pay a (hit) price for your messing! I do install new software and updates as indicated by my three-column Start Menu, but I don't "tweak" for the sake of tweaking. And, I'm running a rather "antique" Pentium III 600 which is about to get demoted to the upstairs computer room when I install my shiny new Dell P4 3.2 gig machine!

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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    As you install program updates, program upgrades, and new programs you'll most likely see a slow down over a period of time as each new version usually adds functionality that requires more processing power or uses more memory or accesses the hard drive more frequently. You also tend to run more in the background, such as anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, etc., that you may not have been running when the PC was first acquired. At home, I've got an older PIII that will be replaced later in the year that has not been loaded from scratch since XP was installed in late 2001. It is still running OK. Is it slower than 4+ years ago? YES, but I'm running more apps now.

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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    I'd have to agree with the others Chuck. I've had the same installation of WinXP and Office running since their release, and apart from a little slower startup and shutdown (more things loading at startup and closing at shutdown), my system is a peppy as ever. I think you hit the nail on the head.....
    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17> it's a "Chuck" issue <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> .
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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    You guys are right... now that I've got VMware up and running, maybe I can sandbox my "sperimenting" in a safe place...

    I think too that it will give me my "second machine" to try stuff out on, so that I'm not fussing with a known configuration.

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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    A complete lack of curiosity and adventure on a person's part.

    I love to tweak and mess around also. It's part of the computing arena IMHO. <img src=/S/fanfare.gif border=0 alt=fanfare width=31 height=23> <img src=/S/meltdown.gif border=0 alt=meltdown width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/overclocking.gif border=0 alt=overclocking width=99 height=47>
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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    Mark:

    So how do you avoid or survive the battle scars? Or does your machine keep it's speed etc. as well?

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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    Mark <img src=/S/question.gif border=0 alt=question width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    Bob, see how demented my awareness gets as I get caught up in all this? Sorry...

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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    Did I hear my name? <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Stable Advice (WinXP-SP-2)

    If you don't have a second machine to play on then the best strategy (IMHO) is to make an image backup before you make any system changes or install any new programs. The few serious issues I've had over the past 3 years or so have all come from program upgrades or updates (Norton in particular). Each time after attempting to resolve the issue by normal troubleshooting methods and failing miserably, I went to the image I created immediately before installing or updating and everything was fine again and I have another opportunity to try the installation a different way. This is good practice in theory, but it gets rather tedious when you have to create an image every time you want to tweak your system, but it's your call about how secure you need to feel. For minor installations I've trusted Total Uninstall to keep me safe and it has not let me down to date.

    Otherwise, just weekly system maintenance keeps my system purrin' like a kitten. I run run Disk Cleanup daily. Open your Temporary Internet folder after running and manually clear all the unnecessary cookies from there (you'll be surprised how many are left after disk cleanup). Remember to leave your WOPR cookie and any others for sites you want to be remembered at. Defrag your HD and update and run all your adware and spyware tools. HTH
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