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    Interesting Alternative

    While watching a 2006 gadget show, they featured a flexible alternative to traditional power strip. I am planning on getting a couple to see how they work? Has anyone else tried them yet?


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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by DaveA on 20-Mar-06 12:50. )</P>Most of them are JUST a outlet splitter, with NO protection. Some Fire inspectors do NOT like them, as one can OVERLOAD the circuit.

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    I saw a short (10 inches) cord that can be used so the "Transformer Brick" will not cover the adjacent outlet.

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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    What if they were plugged into a Backup Power Supply, would that make them safer? I guess I was trying to figure out a way to get rid of the jumble under the desk and since these will allow the plug in of those power modules that printers, etc. have (that take up so much space on a bar) into the individual plug, it just looked like it might work well. So maybe not so good of an idea then?


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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    Yes, but would drain your batteries real quick if used on the protect side.

    I use other surge protectors for those devices in which need NOT be on the battery. This way it will not drain the batteries or over power the built in surge protector of the backup power unit.

    By the way, the ONLY things that are on the battery side is the computer, monitor, external drives, NO printers, scanners and etc.

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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    Nope, I wasn't planning on using them on the protected battery backup side but that does bring up a question? Are the ones - that aren't battery backed up - surge protected? Or is anything plugged on that side of the UPS at the mercy of electrical surges, brownouts and the like?

    I guess I thought anything plugged into any plug on the UPS was at least surged protected. And yes, only the monitor and box are plugged into the protected side...... <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    Usually a UPS will have surge protection on the "no battery" outlets, but bargain basement models might not.

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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    Usually a UPS will have surge protection on the "no battery" outlets...

    Thanks Jefferson - This UPS is no bargain basement model! So it is as I thought, I can plug extensions in on the "no battery" side and know that it is as safe as possible from surges and brownouts. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Or now.....another question? Is there a limit to what a person should plug in and still be able to count on for surge protection? Maybe that is beyond the scope of this forum...... <img src=/S/hmmn.gif border=0 alt=hmmn width=15 height=15> Perhaps I need to be searching the UPS sites and see what they have to say. Or better still, write to APC and get their opinion! <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15> But of course, if anyone has anything to add, I'll be happy to "hear" it! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    The outlets should be rated for a certain maximum number of amps. If you exceed that, there could be overheating problems in ordinary operation.

    Whether you are using 0 or the maximum, the surge protection should work by severing the connection between the outlets and the wall using either a circuit breaker or something that melts. I would expect the protection to kick in (or burn away) for all outlets at the same time. Ideally you just flip a switch. In some cases you then need to buy a new power strip. In other cases, you might be left with a power strip that doesn't protect you...

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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    Hi Jefferson!

    My original plan won't work and I am glad that I asked here as well as checking in the APC knowledge base. They have an interesting page here that pretty much says "No, I should not do it". They talk about using a Power Distribution Unit but that is overkill in my situation. I guess I'll just keep dealing with my jumble of cords until I figure out another solution. I could cut back on my "toys" but that'd be no fun at all! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> and DaveA for the thoughts and advice! <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    Skitterbug,

    APC has a site where you can fill in the blanks to "Help ME Choose" a proper sized UPS. You just fill in the type of hardware you have or want to protect and it will come back with a recommendation as to capacity and other features it will provide for you along with some reserve power.

    Try it at UPS Selector
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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    Also, those short power cords ( 1 foot ) that Dave mentions do a good job of clearing space on either an UPS or a power strip by moving the power "bricks" away from the unit outlet itself by using a standard sized plug.

    You can get them for $1.99 at my favorite gadget site: CYBERGUYS
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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    Thanks Bob - I have a APC 500 which is serving the purpose of protecting two computer boxes.

    My main focus was trying to unscramble all of the rest of junk I have plugged in various surge bars. I had thought that the receptacle that I asked about in my first post might be a solution but it ended up not being a good idea. However, thinking about it, perhaps a second UPS might be something to consider seriously............I'll have to think my electrical nightmare through carefully! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> Thanks for the link! <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    You posted your second one while I was "sweating" over my answer! <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> I'll head off to Cyberguys and see what these short power cords look like that you and DaveA are suggesting for a solution! I can bet that my surge protector will be sprouting "arms" and end up looking like that thing I thought was so neat, but the homemade "octopus" surge bar will be a safer solution! <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    I sure wouldn't use 'em as an alternative to a surge protector, but I have several of these guys plugged in to my top-of-the-line surge protector. When I bought several of these, they were only singles but hey, for $3 bucks or so they've never given me any problem. Of course now you still have the annoying problem of all those little 'bricks' laying around the surge protector. It's always been difficult if not impossible to keep the cabling and wiring of a computer very neat and orderly!

    Y-splitter Liberator Power Extension at Cyberguys.com Please note the words "... low current draw ..." in the product writeup!

    Edited to add: Sorry to Bob and Skitterbug. I failed to read Bob's post before making mine. But at least that's two of us who are fans of Cyberguys!

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    Re: Interesting Alternative

    Hi Al,

    Thanks for the added post because it reinforces the trust in Cyberguys' products. I am always looking for decent vendors who will deliver their goods! And I've completely given up the notion of those things I first posted about. <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15> It does pay to ask here in the lounge! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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