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    Web Statistics

    Having designed my first web site, for a local charity, I'd like to get some information on how it is being used.
    It seems that my hosting company (streamlinenet) doesn't provide direct access to the server logs, but offers Matrix Statistics for

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    Re: Web Statistics

    Hi George

    I was talking to a Lounger the other day about his use of GoogleAds on his website and he told me that although the income of the ad was very low it was an ideal way to get a free hit counter onto his page.

    So for <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15> and with the possibility of getting some income for the charity I would go with a Google Ad <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Web Statistics

    Thanks Jezza -I'll think about that one. Not sure we would want to carry adverts, though.

    George

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    Re: Web Statistics

    Do you have HTTP or FTP access to the actual server logs for your site? These contain raw data on every request for every page, every image, etc., and can accumulate to be quite large, but often are discarded after 14 or 30 days. Given the files, there are numerous tools available, some free, some not, to generate table, charts and graphs. Fun stuff, although sometimes a bit slow to run due to the large volumes of data.

    If you don't mind command line programs, you could try visitors, which was designed to read Apache logs. I posted a little Word VBA program to do a conversion of logs from Microsoft's IIS (on this page of the forum) to the correct format, on the off chance that your web site is hosted on Windows.

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    Re: Web Statistics

    The site runs on a Linux machine, so I guess it's an Apache server.
    When I asked the hosting company if I can access the logs they didn't reply but told me about Matrix Stats - so I've assumed that they aren't making the log files available. But I've just been digging around the folders I can see through my FTP client and have found a folder called logfiles that seems to be what I need. So I'll try your suggested visitors program and see howw it goes.

    Thanks for all the help - it's prompted me to do more digging on the server than I previously managed.

    George

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    Re: Web Statistics

    Hopefully you can find it. My host tells me that "logs really aren't necessary" which I completely disagree with, but they do at least offer WebTrends as part of the package. Perhaps if you contact them and explain the charity nature of your site, they would be willing to work with you on it.
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    Re: Web Statistics

    Or you could look at another hosting company that offers logs or stats as part of the hosting. The hosting market is a competitive one!

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    Re: Web Statistics

    Ahh, my hosting company does offer stats - but not logs, which I want for troubleshooting. Their stance is that I can enable it for PHP documents, but I don't use PHP consistently across the site, thus negating their argument. I plan to write a detailed letter to the sales and management crew to advise them that I will jump ship if they cannot meet my needs, which I fully expect to be ignored...
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    Re: Web Statistics

    <img src=/S/munch.gif border=0 alt=munch width=19 height=17> Mmmm, logs. Yes, I've found them much more difficult to get. The server logs will contain details from all the sites on that server, so there would be some serious privacy issues to deal with.
    I've needed logs when debugging some Perl scripts on some of my sites. Having not got them from the host, I've used Perl modules such as Carp and FatalsToBrowser to 'get' the error. Good defensive programming is also important.
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    Re: Web Statistics

    You could sign up for google analytical (its free) and you will have more stats than you know what to do with. It involves putting a simple piece of code in each page of the site and google will do the rest. I have used it since it started on several sites i maintain and it has proved very useful.

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    Re: Web Statistics

    ooh, ooh...that sounds interesting...do you have the URL please?
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    Re: Web Statistics

    Edited by HansV to make URL clickable - see <!help=19>Help 19<!/help>

    Hi, you can find it at http://www.google.com/analytics

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