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    EVDO?

    Anyone using EVDO, either in a PCMCIA card or by tethering their cell phone, to get to their ISP? In the US Verizon wants $15 a month to add EVDO to the phone (that's acceptable), and $70 a month to use their EVDO-entry ISP! ( <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0>$70 a month - polite words fail me!) Seems like I'm missing something - can't I EVDO into any domain where I'm permitted?

    Doesn't seem to be a lot of useful info returned by Google. If anyone is using EVDO in the US, can you point me to urls and other resources you have found? Or tell me that I have no idea what I'm taking about, which is the reason for this post.
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    Re: EVDO?

    When my lady friend was using her Verizon-based cell phone for Internet access, it was simply a matter of subscribing to the Mobile Web service Verizon offers. A small utility from Verizon provided a software layer to "show" her computer the network connection and transfer rate. Between those two things and the physical cable, nothing else was needed to effect a connection other than connecting via the aforementioned utility.

    I'm afraid I'm lost on the EVDO-entry ISP that you're speaking of. Does your phone allow for a mobile-web connection? I should think that would be all that's necessary.
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    Re: EVDO?

    From what I understand Verizon users can access Verizon's prescribed WAP services by paying the $5 per month; the service runs at a nice 115kbps. I expect that's what your lady friend has, can you check?

    A Verizon user who adds EVDO service to the phone can get streaming video and other fun stuff via VCAST; but from everything I gather Verizon users are restricted to the VCAST sites that Verizon provides, or for an additional $70 you can access Verizon's full service ISP, but no other full service ISP*. I would so very much love to be wrong about this.

    <img src=/S/ranton.gif border=0 alt=ranton width=66 height=37>(* without hacks which would invalidate the phone warranty, but even the phone hacker sites are vague about it. See the "Modded Web Browsing" section of this page, and there are some discussions in the Howard forums. I don't mind hacking my phone a bit to get wallpapers and ringtones in without paying Verizon for it, but I don't plan to hack the software itself. Off on a tangent, Verizon is so mercenary that their Mobile Phone Tools Kit, which they OEM from BVRP, has the Media Tools section disabled for a number of their phones, forcing users to go online to Verizons' "Get It Now" service to buy the usual rap and pop slop ring tones and predictable wallpapers, rather than importing them direct from their PCs. For even more about what I'm ranting about, click on the VCAST link in this post and scroll down to the Controversy section, skip the first bullet, then read on.)
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    Re: EVDO?

    You are correct - it's the WAP service that she is using. She pays $5 USD monthly and the bitrate is the same, although I found it to be fairly slow in practice. Then again, I'm spoiled by broadband so my perception has a lot to do with it.

    In reading the links you provided and digging on my own, it would appear that you are correct in your assumptions - by using EVDO from Verizon, you're locked in to whatever options they feel like providing. While this is indeed a sad (and market-driven) situation, I can only hope that they learn the same lesson that Nintendo did back when the original NES was released: by controlling your licensing and developers too tightly, you ultimately end up losing in the marketplace. Just the reading that I did on my own makes me think that it will be time to evaluate different carriers when my contract expires in the not-too-distant future.

    Sorry that I can't be more help. All I can really do at this point is commiserate. <img src=/S/sad.gif border=0 alt=sad width=15 height=15>
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