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    SPAM addresses question

    A general question re SPAM senders addresses, if I may:-

    Having been SPAM-free for well over 2 years, I

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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    You might perhaps get somewhere with your 'blocked senders' method, but the range and variety of "From:" addresses will eventually make you give up. Many/most of these are spoofed.

    I was thinking of blocking <anything>.biz, because to my knowledge our charity has never had a non-spam email from one of those addresses! We use the SpamHaus blacklist to reject emails from a vast number of domains.

    We delete any email which doesn't have one of our valid email addresses as the "To:" address, which gets rid of a goodly number before they even get into Exchange, but unless you have your own mail domain that won't be a possibility for you.

    The email addresses which have been on our websites for ages get about 90% spam emails; those that haven't get a tiny amount. On average, just less than 50% of our incoming emails are spam.

    Unfortunately spam seems to be a never-ending pain...

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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Thanks for response John - makes for gloomy reading though!!
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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    You might try checking your mail online before downloading it to your system for a few days. If you catch the offending messages there, you can forward them to your ISP and request that they add the addresses to their SPAM filters or attempt to create rules in your online inbox to block them. I've been successful with both MSN and Verizon addresses at blocking persistent, new spammers using this method. HTH
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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Hi Doc and thanks. Will certainly give that a try for a few days and see what happens. I have already gone down the road of creating rules in my online mail box (eg, telling it to delete msgs containing certain words/combination of words) - unfortunately that doesn't seem to work on these messages - or at least they keep turning up in my OE box when I log in. Perhaps logging into my online mail, as you suggest, and tagging the messages as SPAM will have some result with my ISP. Anythings worth a try! Thanks for the pointer.
    I'll give it a few days and post back what, if any, success I have.
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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Doc,
    ##I'll give it a few days and post back what, if any, success I have## Ha! Somewhat optimistic of me! Here we are, weeks later, and I'm still checking my mail via my ISP first - and still getting the same old SPAM!
    Although I check all the SPAM messages as SPAM and get a nice little 'thank you, you're helping us to refine our SPAM filters' auto message from my ISP, I'm afraid that nothing much has changed. I still get about 3 or 4 a day, mostly advertising OEM MS software, all from infinitely variable .COM addresses! It would seem that my ISP at least is as powerless as me in beating the spam'ers.
    Still, it was worth a try and, in fact, I've got'n so used to checking my mail via my ISP first before opening OE, that it has become somewhat of an automatic function (although a bit of a time consuming one) so I'll probably keep on doing it - you never know, one day I might just win!! (just saw a pig fly past window!).
    Thanks for the suggestion neverthless. If it ever stops I'll let you know.
    Cheers,
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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Ken,

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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Most ISPs that try can block a large percentage of junk, maybe 80%. But there is a huge difference between blocking 80%, 90% and 95% on your enjoyment of email. If you can tolerate changing mail providers (or even your ISP), you might be able to do better.

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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Both Jefferson and Bob have good suggestions here. I don't get that much SPAM anymore (really don't know why) and what I get is usually managable by me or my ISP (Verizon DSL). One other trick I use is to attempt to find the common thread in the Spammer's (alleged) address, like the domain, and if it's an oddball name, but is the same in all the SPAM you can try making a rule in your email client to block all mail from that domain (*.xy.com or *.xy.*.com). What you do is really a matter of personal preference and comfort.

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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Thanks for the inputs guys. Guess I'll soldier on for a while - at least until my patience runs out (or the problem escalates!!) I've had a look at Mouse Trap and it seems interesting - It's in my Favorites list for now. And changing ISP (my original thought) would be a major headache, what with having to have a new address..... and, of course, there'd be no guarantee that I'd remain spam free in the long run. Ah well.......
    I'll post back in a couple of weeks and let you know what transpires.
    Thanks again all.
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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Doc,
    Way back in July last year I promised to update on how I got on resolving (or not) my SPAM issue. It's been a long time 'a-coming', for which my apologies. I have managed to reach a relatively successful solution, based on compromise.
    My ISP (Orange) has, over time, become quite good at identifying SPAM mail and offers a facility to have mail that it tags as SPAM to be automatically directed to the users Junk Mail folder which resides on the ISP's e-mail facility. The most useful bit about this is that when I open up OE (which is my e-mail facility of choice), all the marked SPAM is directed to the Junk Mail folder on the server - thus it never reaches me in OE!

    The ISP automatically deletes Junk Mail after 10 days. What I've been doing over time is occasionally visiting the ISP's Junk Mail folder to make sure that nothing I want is slipping through the net; where it has, I just add the relevant wrongly identified SPAM address (or domain) to my ISP Mail's 'White' list.

    It's not foolproof! I do still get the odd SPAM mail slipping through because my ISP has failed to identify it as such, but you can't have everything! What I intend to do over time is that if the SPAM slipping through begins to increase in volume then I'll start logging on to my ISP mail service for a while and tagging the offending messages as SPAM.

    For now though, I'm (touch wood) virtually SPAM free!

    Your tip re sorting it out at ISP level was a good pointer.

    Cheers!
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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Since you use Orange you can add another layer of protection. All Orange email addresses take the form:
    a_name_you_pick@YourUserName.orange... etc.

    The handy thing is that the bit before the @sign can be anything you like. This means when you want to / need to give out an email address e.g. to register some freebie software, give an address to someone you don't really want to hear from ever again, you can create a different (dummy) address every time:
    NameOfSoftware@YourUserName.orange...

    Then set up a filter within the Orange Webmail system to re-direct anything that comes in on that dummy address to the junk folder. Once you've got the initial registration key / what ever from the software company you needn't worry about follow up junk coming down the wire to your PC at home.

    Another thing you can do is to set Message Rule(s) within Outlook Express that uses the "Do not download from the server" option. to hold stuff back . I keep all my families email separate using a combination of OE identities and this Rule. E.g. my wife starts OE and choses her identity, she sees all her mailboxes. When she checks her mail a Rule along the lines of Unless the To or CC fields include MyWife@... do NOT download from the server picks out stuff for her but leaves behind stuff for Me@... or MySon1@ or MySon2@. If MySon1 switches to his identity then he gets his messages but not anyone else's. The Rule also holds back any BCC messages, they too could be spam. You we can see those via webmail or because I've left my identity as a 'master' one and don't have a 'do NOT download' option on that one we can retrieve any genuine BCC messages via that route.

    I also have Mailwasher http://www.mailwasher.net available, it doesn't require a web browser to access the mailbox at the ISP. Other people here will speak up in favour of it too.

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    Re: SPAM addresses question

    Ken,
    Thanks for the pointers - much appreciated. They're useful and will add yet another layer of protection. I should have picked up on the e-mail address 'anything' before the @ sign option - knew about it but hadn't thought about it in the context of filtering!
    Cheers,
    Keith

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