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    Keyboard layout - six control keys

    When there are six keys, there seem to be two versions of the layout of the control keys just above the cursor keys:

    <table border=1><td>Insert</td><td>Home</td><td>Page Up</td><td>Delete</td><td>End</td><td>Page Down</td></table>
    and

    <table border=1><td>Home</td><td>End</td><td>Insert</td><td>Page Up</td><td>Delete</td><td>Page Down</td></table>
    (I'm guessing a bit on this second one!).

    The first one I have on all my computers at home, and the ones I use at work, but I've noticed that the second one is also around (is this a newer layout?). If you're used to the first layout, the second one is absolutely infuriating (and vice versa, no doubt!).

    What version(s) do other people have?

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    Re: Keyboard layout - six control keys

    John,
    I have the first version. I also checked some of my older keyboards in my spare parts shelf and they all have the first version.
    I can't recall ever seeing that second version at all.
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    Re: Keyboard layout - six control keys

    I have the top layout on each of the PCs I've used for an extended period of time, before having to replace any keyboards. It was previously the standard US 101, 102, and 104 key keyboards.

    On the IBM / Lenovo notebooks I've used, they too have the same layout. My Dell notebook is a totally different story.

    On any of the replacement keyboards I've purchased in the past year and a half or so, I've had a modification of the bottom layout. The insert key is missing, and the delete key has been made double-high (ie 2 keys).

    It's a pain going between keyboards on a regular basis. I now look for keyboards that specifically use the 3 across, 2 down layout, as that's the layout on my PC at the office, and the one I use on the majority of my PCs.
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    Re: Keyboard layout - six control keys

    I think the second one is
    <table border=1><td>Home</td><td>Page Up</td><td>End</td><td>Page Down</td><td>Delete</td><td>Insert</td></table>and it's used in (some?) newer Dell keyboards - very annoying, since Insert moved from upper left in this block to lower right.

    The Microsoft "Natural" keyboard has another crazy layout for this block: no Insert key and a double-size Delete key.

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    Re: Keyboard layout - six control keys

    This keyboard has your second version, exactly as you laid it out. It is a Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro.

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    Re: Keyboard layout - six control keys

    Most of mine are version one. I have a Logitech Wireless that uses the Hans Version 2. Then I have an old Memorex which uses a 9 key layout:
    <table border=1><td>PrintScreen</td><td>Scroll Lock</td><td>Pause/Break</td><td>Insert</td><td>Home</td><td>Page Up</td><td>Delete</td><td>End</td><td>Page Down</td>
    </table>

    Now before you say anything - where
    <table border=1><td>PrintScreen</td><td>Scroll Lock</td><td>Pause/Break</td>
    </table>

    normally is on the top row with the F-Keys, this keyboard has

    <table border=1><td>Power</td><td>Sleep</td><td>Wake Up</td>
    </table>

    So the other two rows typically found in Version 1 are positioned lower by the space of one row - there's no gap before the cursor keys. This keyboard sits in one of those piles of parts just waiting for someone to ask if I have a spare keyboard I no longer want.

    BTW, before complaining too much, I have seen some pretty funky keyboard layouts on laptops and compact mobile wireless keyboards - you spend 5 minutes looking for the <font color=6495ed>Fn</font color=6495ed> key, then another 5 minutes looking for the Page Up key. <img src=/S/crazy.gif border=0 alt=crazy width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/smash.gif border=0 alt=smash width=30 height=26>
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    Re: Keyboard layout - six control keys

    For what it's worth, my brand new Dell came with a keyboard layout as your first example, so they seem to have (here) stayed with the majority. But, the Logitech cordless I replaced it with is setup as in Chris' quote, thus:
    <hr>... a modification of the bottom layout. The insert key is missing, and the delete key has been made double-high (ie 2 keys). <hr>
    BTW, the Insert key is along the top, above the numpad area.

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    Re: Keyboard layout - six control keys

    Hans

    The Microsoft keyboards we have at work the second layout as shown in my initial post, but in a catalogue I see the double-height Delete button that others have talked about.

    We've had enough trouble deciding where the main typing area keys go for various International users, so I'm surprised that manufacturers are now having fun with these Insert/Delete/Home/End/PageUp/PageDown keys, too! The layout of the cursor keys also seems to vary, but we'll leave that one alone...

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