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    Linux LiveCD Tryout

    I don't know if I should post this here, since it's not a mission-critical post, so I'll make my cross references and go on. In light of this thread (<post#=575,518>post 575,518</post#>) I finally decided to try a Linux LiveCD as has been suggested a number of times here in The Lounge. My reason for doing so was to determine if Acronis TrueImage OR Linux was having trouble with my Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard. At the offline recommendation of a Lounger, I downloaded and burned a Ubunto Linux LiveCD that I could not get to boot my computer. The thing would go all the way to what looked like GUI screens to me but finally abort with the message that it could not load or activate my GUI screen. I tried a couple of times, for it looked like the thing was 99% there and I don't know what would happen at the last minute to cause the abort.

    Today, I tried a Gentoo LiveCD and successfully got it to boot my computer and I played around in there for some time. The only thing I don't understand is why it wouldn't let me increase the screen resolution to anything higher than 1024 pixels.

    The reason for this post is to say simply that my cordless USB Logitech mouse and keyboard were easily and successfully recognized by Gentoo Linux, so I do think the TrueImage problem is one that Acronis needs to fix. I also wanted to ask if anyone has any other recommendations, for a "player" like me, of other Linux Live CDs that a guy could fool around with? I even made a visit to The Lounge from the Linux provided Firefox and made this post in the Test forum while there: <post#=578,723>post 578,723</post#>

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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks... hehehe j/k Al. Yes, gentoo is my distro of choice. I wouldn't recommend it for a newbie on a complete install. Its a sourced based distro that needs EVERYTHING compiled and configured. BUT, if you're only playing with the live CD, its perfect. The resolution problem may be because the live CD either doesn't have the correct driver or is not using the correct driver.

    Another good live CD is Knoppix. It's prolly one of the nicest s far as live CD's go. http://www.knoppix.org/

    Lemme know if you need anything else.
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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    Gee, I wonder which lounger suggested trying a LiveCD ?? Hmmm.. I smell a skunk <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>.

    I've just loaded kubuntu LTS 6.06, AKA Dapper Drake. This particular release of the ubuntu family will have 3 year support for the desktop user, and 5 years for a server. Very nice for anyone looking to switch and learn in my opinion.

    I had tried one of the earlier (beta) releases as a 'desktop' CD (what everyone elese calls a LiveCD). It was nice, but a few too many bugs at the time to commit. Lastnight, I downloaded the 'alternate' CD, which is the text based installer - direct to HD, backup your data, yadda yadda yadda - you know, the dangerous method!!! As I've recently purchased a new Lenovo Thinkpad (model 2529-E8U for those curious), it didn't matter to me.

    I love this distro. It found all my required hardware during the setup, and even got the resolution of 1680 x 1050 to display correctly wihout asking! That's never happened for me before on any distro on any laptop computer with a resolution greater than 1024 x 768. I'm impressed.

    Here's to your experiment with Linux Al - Maybe we'll convert you over yet <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>.
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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    Yeah, well I didn't want to blow your cover without permission. <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> I think I'll give the latest one a try and see what happens. I couldn't figure out what went wrong on the previous one I tried. It all looked like it was loading without error, the screen even changed to a quasi-GUI looking screen, that is it was sort of hi-res, in a brownish color and all the messages seemed OK at the time. All of a sudden came this lo-res window saying it couldn't load my graphical user interface.

    I'll give the latest a shot and see what happens. CDs are inexpensive and I'm retired... another <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    I tried this one too and it also doesn't work. It boots as did the previous, with nothing but 'OK' as it goes through all the loading. Finally, during what appears to be the final stages, with the blue-ish logo on screen, it seems to complete but then just sits there forever, with the logo on screen and a progress bar that seems to be complete. I'm gonna try booting it again and let it sit there even longer, but it appears that there's something in my hardware or this Ubuntu product that won't play together.

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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    What video card are you using in your PC?
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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    Radeon X600 256MB HyperMemory Display adapter... (copied from Belarc Advisor analysis).

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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    You're right, Mike! I just booted my Knoppix CD I made yesterday and there's a heck of a lot of stuff on there for a guy to try out. I didn't try to make any settings changes for I figured it would have to try to save them to my hard drive and I didn't want that. BTW, I just realized I forgot to check the display resolution while there, but from the looks of my spins with Kongueror and Firefox from within Knoppix, it looked like I was at 1280 or something darn close to that. The Knoppix bootup process is pretty nice for someone who's interested in such stuff. As it recognized and loaded each device, it told me a little something about what it "recognized." I was particularly watching for the video card because of Chris' earlier question, and Knoppix DID identify the Radeon model correctly. Well, I've got some stuff to play around with on "quiet evenings."

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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    Good morning Al!

    I was browsing thru the ubuntu forums, and found a few, okay many, posts about problems with various ATI cards, but none of the ones I found, dealt with the LiveCD version of the distro. So, the posts there weren't much help, other than to say, yes, there's a problem with the X600 (and a few other ATI cards) for that matter.

    However, when I attempted to load ubuntu and kubuntu onto my new thinkpad with an ATI X300 videocard, I needed to pass "<span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold">linux vga=771 noapic nolapic</span hi>" at the boot menu, rather than pressing ENTER (or waiting). If I didn't do this, the first input screen was constantly flashing at me.
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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    Having no idea what that command does, I'll try it this afternoon when I come home to see what happens. It's all an interesting experience for me. Thanks, Chris!

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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    To be honest Al, I don't know what it does either. Using the F1 key at the initial boot screen, you're presented with more options for boot parameters. That particular string was typed out in full with a note saying if you experience hardware lockups, to give it a try.

    Who knows....

    BTW - I'm glad to see you've been able to experiment with Knoppix - It's a favourite of mine to show off, but a little to heavy in it's pre-included packages for my liking.
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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    Its just passing video parameters to the kernel pre-load.
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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    There's an interesting article on Knoppix being used on a USB drive... just thought I'd post it for those who might be interested <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Knoppix Linux on USB
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    Re: Linux LiveCD Tryout

    John,

    Thanks for the reference <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>!

    I have been using Knoppix on CD with a small (256K USB Thumb Drive) for some time. The Knoppix is great to take while traveling and using almost any computer to access the internet for e-mail and work files I have to carry.

    With larger USB Drives, I have been thinking of trying to install Knoppix (dare I hope XP) on a larger USB Drive. This way I do not interfere with any other computer but have my common interface no matter where I am.
    Scott

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