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    Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    On the Startup tab of MSConfig, I'm showing 5 items that are in the startup folder -- twice.

    Once as active items, and once as disabled items -- same item and detail, just disabled. And I cannot figure how to delete them.

    How can I get rid of these items?

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    What are the 'items'?

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    Leif:

    The attached shortcuts are all in the CWBillow/startup, but are ALSO showing as disabled items -- in the same startup folder.

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    A list would have been easier to look at than a zip file that has to be downloaded and opened!

    If they are in your startup folder and you don't want them to run, why don't you just delete them or move them to another folder?

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    There's also a registry tweak at Kelly's Korner: Troubleshooting Windows XP, Tweaks and Fixes for Windows XP (Line #148 on the right)

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    Leif:

    No, I want to keep them, just get rid of the disabled ones...

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    Al;

    That was exactly what was needed. Thanks.

    What causes these "ghost entries", and why didn't/don't they show up in normal startup managers to be just removed?

    Oh well, another one for the toolbox...

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    As I understand it, the disabled "Startup" entries, whether in the Registry Run keys or in your user or All Users Startup folder, are there for easy re-enabling should you change your mind and want to enable them again at some later stage. Installers don't seem to be clever enough to remove an identical-but-disabled entry when they insert a new and active one.

    You can get rid of them easily as Leif suggests, and also via Spybot S&D -> Tools -> System Startup, click on the entry and click on the Delete button at the top. No doubt this could also be done with programs like MSCONFIG, but I find that less informative than Spybot.

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    John:

    I understood that by the items showing up in MSconfig as unchecked that they were turned off.... but these were *duplicates * of items that were also turned on... so the issue I suppose is how they got doubled up at all...

    But no matter as they are gone now...

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    Do you know what; adding a zip folder with some links does not help to explain. I would suppose one uses a zip archive when something is too big to add, when something is gained that way. Since the archive only contains unique links, one just has to imagine how it looks. Nonetheless, I understand you answered Leif's question. A screenshot of your msconfig view would have been better.

    If they are in your startup folder, you can remove them in some different ways already mentioned.

    As to "how they got doubled up", well you are the one that tweaks your machine. John gave one explanation; if one entry is there but has been disabled, an install program might miss it and add a new entry instead of enabling.

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    Argus:

    The zip file was in response to Leif's "What are the 'items'" for which I felt the zip file was an answer. As pointed out previously, a list would have been sufficient. My bad.

    As for my tweaking, that I most certainly do. But adding duplicates to the startup folder, and then disabling one set is something I have not as yet tried.

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    To all:

    And I don't know whether anyone else had ever had this happen, BUT, when it did (to me), before I brought the problem here, I had already tried reviewing the registry for the launch string of each shortcut and come up blank. Why is beyond my comprehension, but so it was.

    Even now I ask myself "What the heck made this happen?", but, oh well.

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    Chuck,
    I did not mean to sound that harsh. Nah, adding duplicates then disabling one set is not exactly normal. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> For entries in the startup folder one can always look at the properties for date created to see if that date match some install date etc.

    The startup tab in MSConfig, as I think you know, lists objects from:
    Startmenu startup folder
    wini.ini load and run
    registry

    As you have found it is not possible to delete entries with MSConfig. If the items found on the startup tab are not from win.ini, it can be that you previously used the programs responsible for the startup links and at some point disabled them or used a program that disabled them. If you then uninstalled the programs (with the entries disabled) and later reinstalled the programs, you could end up with double entries.

    If one uses several programs with capability to disable/remove startup entries one need a good memory. If I disable an entry using Autoruns, and later uses Spybot S & D's little tool for System startup to look at startup programs I will not find the one disabled with Autoruns.

    You can, if you like, look at this Microsoft MVP site:
    Clean-up the MSCONFIG startup tab listings

    As mentioned there: [MSConfig] disabled entries are present in any of the locations:
    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftShared ToolsMSConfigstartupreg
    HKLMSOFTWAREMicrosoftShared ToolsMSConfigstartupfolder

    At the pages, there is also an MSConfig Cleanup utility, to remove previously disabled items. Searching the net there seems to be a bunch of programs dealing with disabled entries, must be good market with every program running at boot time.

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    Argus:

    >>
    I did not mean to sound that harsh
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    Nor i. I only meant to note that I am (trying to learn to) not just wasting time and space on this board, although my often low "Bewilderment Quotient" may seem to make it appear so.

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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    Argus,
    An interesting side note.
    I had recently downloaded Karen Kenworthy's Version Browser. It downloads with a filename of "ptbrowse-setup.exe". It is a file version checker and very handy.

    The Msconfig cleanup utility you pointed to in the link, which will clean up disabled msconfig entries, downloaded with the identical filename. "ptbrowse-setup.exe" I had to rename the second file name in order to DL it.
    Not a problem of course but a coincidence indeed. <img src=/S/thinks.gif border=0 alt=thinks width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Disabled Startup Items (WinXP-SP-2)

    Bob,
    Odd. My purpose was to point to some more information about the Windows System configuration (MSConfig) and where it may save disabled entries.

    I had not downloaded the MSConfig Cleanup utility myself, as I do not have any disabled (or previously disabled) startup entries. I also would think one can delete them manually from the registry.

    Anyhow, from http://windowsxp.mvps.org/MSCONFIG.htm there is a link to http://www.get-in-control.com/msconfig-cleanup/ and I now downloaded the MSConfig Cleanup utility and it came home to me as: msconfig-cleanup-setup.exe.

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