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    Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    When I receive an attachment with the .eml extension, I can't open it. I have the extension to open in OE, but when I try to view the attachment it takes me back to OE and the mail it contains. I searched here and found message 243462 posted by brucekrymow. I followed the post ran the Msimn executable with the /reg option. When I attempted to register the *.eml file type I ran into problems. Under Registered file types there was no EML to select, I saw OE Mail Message. I kept going and checked DDE on my way out. That failed so I returned and unchecked DDE and it took.

    But sad to say, I still can't open eml attachments. I need some further help, please.

    I did find a work around by having the extension point to Notepad but that is unsatisfactory
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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    That <post:=243,462>post 243,462</post:> is quite old. Have you installed the relatively new cumulative OE update MS06-016 (911567)?

    The main issue with that update was the problems after with some old address books. They later released a new patch in some languages, the 918766.

    I do not use OE or do not know what one can do with an .eml file, but I can search, here are some links:
    The update that you may have, and may cause this:
    Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-016

    Woody's writing on the subject, though he gets the numbers wrong (as usual, but makes fun of the Office logo), it is 918766:
    Patch for screwed up Outlook Express MS06-016 patch is here, sorta

    How to Save a New Message as EML Stationery in Outlook Express

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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    Gloria,
    I don't think this is your problem but just a note of caution regarding eml attachments in emails.

    Note: .EML files are used by other E-mail clients as well. Note: .EML files with "funny" names in multiple folders implies the Nimda worm. OE removes access to attachments using this file extension . However, using forward on the tool bar in OE the attachment shows as an envelope that if clicked opens the attachment (use caution if you do this, it could be a worm). Note: This file type can become infected and should be carefully scanned if someone sends you a file with this extension.

    Thought I would "make your day" by telling you this!
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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    Thank you Argus, but the KB918766 only applies to systems that have SP2 installed. I tried to download it and besides the text in the article (I read it but tried to install anyway), a message came up that told me the minimum requirements. So, that lets me out.
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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    Gloria,
    I have not read myself into all the vulnerability details and workarounds for the MS06-016 OE cumulative patch.

    Good thing you read about the additional 918766, but if it excludes pre-SP2 then you should not bothered trying to install it.

    So I guess your answer is that you have the MS06-016, correct? Can you confirm that this is a behaviour that has changed since installing the MS06-016 OE patch?

    As I said initially, I have not looked too closely at the OE update, but IF this is a result by applying patch MS06-016, then one solution is to remove the patch and try the manual workarounds to get the protection given by MS06-016.

    I do not use manual workarounds, and I normally would not recommend them. They sometimes are given by MS for situations when a certain patch cannot be used. They always include this text: "While these workarounds will not correct the underlying vulnerability, they help block known attack vectors."

    Though MS06-016 is cumulative, it seems to only be related to address book vulnerabilities. This .eml thing seems to be a side effect. Therefore, if the above is true, you could try to uninstall the MS06-016 and do the manual workaround found in MS06-016 bulletin to get the protection given by MS06-016.

    Do read the bulletin! The cumulative MS06-016 replaces the MS04-018 and the MS05-030 for OE 6 SP1 on Windows XP SP1. I do not know what other consequences arise when uninstalling MS06-016. (For XP SP2 folks: the MS04-018 was included in SP2 and the MS05-030 was not for SP2).

    Look at General Information > FAQ
    Look at General Information > Vulnerability Details > Mitigating Factors/Workarounds/FAQ
    Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-016

    Bob makes some really good points about .eml files worth knowing when working with OE.

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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    Dear Argus,
    MS06-016 is indeed installed, but isn't listed in Add or Remove Programs. Therefore uninstall is impossible.

    If I remember correctly, I was having problems opening .eml attachments before the installation. So any problems created by the uninstall will not affect my computer.

    I give up trying to fix the problem, I just won't open attachments with that extension. From the subject they seemed to be unimportant, for instance ~ jokes.

    Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate your efforts.

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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    I'm not sure, but I think that you can drag and drop an .eml attachment into a folder and open it from there. Cannot test it here because we don't have OE on our company PC's.

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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    Thank you sir,
    The next time I receive one, I will try your suggestion. Tried all the rest, may as well try yours too.
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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    > From the subject they seemed to be unimportant, for instance ~ jokes.
    For some people, those messages would be the highlight of their day. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> On the other hand, people should learn to forward "inline" (in the message body) so that you don't have to open attachments nested 5 deep. Some of those joke threads get ridiculous.

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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    If I remember right, the DEFAULT for AOL is to forward as attachment. That is the source of MOST buried messages.

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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    I have the same experience that you have had; i.e., I cannot open attachments that use an ".eml" file extension. I receive the basic message just fine on OE. When I click on the "paper Clip" for the attachment, I get an error message that says "c is not a protocol". I click on the OK button on that error message and it disappears leaving me with a Mozilla Thunderbird screen that displays none of the original email but at the bottom of the screen is listed "Attachment" and the words "Forwarded Message .eml". If I click on "Forwarded Message.eml" nothing happens. I have the suspicion that some setting in my Outlook Express is blocking the .eml file but I cannot find where that may be to neutralize it.

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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    Have you checked that the .eml extension opens with Outlook Express? If it is, forward the email to yourself, when it opens, try opening the attachment again. The wonderful people that frequent Woody's Lounge will help you further if that doesn't work. Post back if it fails.
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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    Dear Duchess, I tried your suggestion of sending an email to myself that I had previously been unable to open th e attachment. First, I forwarded the offending email to myself at a secondary email address that I maintain on Yahoo.com. When I went to that address, the email was there, the attachment was there and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, I opened the attachment easily and normally. Second, I forwarded that same email back from the Yahoo adress to my primary email address on verizon.net. I went to that address and found the email BUT I could not open the attachment. Third, starting from my Verizon address, I sent the same email to myself at my VERIZON address - sort of in one ear and ouot the other. The email was transmitted and received but I could not open the attachment. Last night, I went to Microsoft Update and downloaded the MS06-016 security update. I had done the same thing several weeks ago but felt that it might have been corrupted somehow. I have had the "automatically Update" engaged for a long time. Whatever I did, or didn't do, list night did not make any difference. I am convnced that I have something wrong in my Outlook Express since the attachment opened
    without any trouble in Yahoo.com. I don't believe my verizon.net ISP is the source of the trouble. I really would like to find a solution other than having to retransmit all emails that I receive on Outlook Express to my yahoo.com address just to read the an .e;m attachment. JIM

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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    Are you simultaneously using both Mozilla Thunderbird and Outlook Express? I'm a little confused by the interaction you mentioned in your earlier message. EML might be proprietary to Microsoft Outlook Express and not openable in Thunderbird, but I haven't used Thunderbird so I couldn't say.

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    Re: Email Extension (OE 6.00.2800.1807)

    Thank you for your suggestion. I have not Intentionally been using Outlook Express (OE) and Mozilla Thuderbird simultaneously but I believe you may be correct. They are running simultaneously. I have OE marked as my primary email program, and that is what comes up on the screen when I click on the icon for OE. However, when I get an email that has an attachment, and I click on the attachment (paper clip), there is a screen flash that could be OE and it is immediately replaced by the screen for Thunderbird. The Thunderbird screen has only the address block of the message and an error message in the middle of the screen that says "c is not a protocol" with two buttons, one for OK and the other for CANCEL. At the bottom of the screen is the label ATTACHMENT. When I click on either of those buttons, the error message goes away but nothing else seems to occur. When I click on the attachment that has an >eml extension, I get nothing. I believe I will go to the Control Panel, find add&remove software and , if Thunderbird is there, I will remove it. I am not at all sure how it got onto my hard drive. After it is removed, I will try to open the attachments that have been giving me trouble. JIM

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