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    OSX vs. XP

    right now i am running XP Home, and for a very long time, i have wanted an apple computer (money is always the issue). but i was wondering, is OSX better then XP (or Vista)? i hear that with the new version of OSX apple is about to introduce, you can install windows on it and run it like a windows computer. so, would it be smarter to get the apple and install windows on it, because i think Mac has so much more standard things to offer, or should i just stick with my PC. the reason i would even want to still run windows is because i have alot of computer games, and they only work on PC. so please, express your opinions. Thanks, ill be watching.

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    Re: OSX vs. XP

    I too have been debating on switching up my OS to something other than XP. I thought about getting a MacBook for a while, and i have recently been considering going the Linux route and trying out the recently trendy Ubuntu distrobution. I came up with some possibly interesting conclusions.

    While OSX is stylish, pretty, secure, and great with audio/video/drawing equipment & operations, I could not justify the cost simply because (as you said) they don't have many game's available. OSX does some things better than windows, and windows does some things better than OSX - so you need to decide on an OS that is most functional for you. Since in the end that's what its for, right? Leopard is supposed to come with 'Boot camp' containing a version of XP that will allow you, hopefully, to play games on Macs while Vista is slated to come out at the end of the year with all new features. My thoughts are to resist the urge to get either OS for now and wait to see what actually comes out and check out their reviews & demos especially with Vista stressing looking nicer and being more secure. Vista may actually compete with Leopard's looks and security so my entire opinion of either can change when they are released.

    And you might not care about Linux, but lately I've been thinking more and more about trying Ubuntu because so many people swear that its "almost" as functional as windows with the security (virus free life) of a Mac while being completely free of cost. It has a plethora of open source software available for it. People have dedicated a lot of their time developing tools to automatically install all of the popular software programs and there are how-to's for almost everything these days to make things easier on the new user... it may be worth trying out.

    My personal plan is to build a new computer when Vista comes out and then to install Ubuntu for atleast a few days to try it out. I'll still have my current computer to use XP and after reading some Vista reviews, I'll either install Vista or install a free copy of XP pro I have from my university. I think that I'd like to save getting a Mac for my next laptop purchase after Leopard is released and hopefully they can fix their quality control issues by then!

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    Re: OSX vs. XP

    If you like to work with photos and video, the Mac and the various applications for the Mac probably are slicker than Windows and the various applications for Windows. However, whenever I play with a Mac at the Apple Store, I find just enough differences -- not least of which is that missing right mouse button, and of course the price compared with Dell -- to dissuade me from giving it a try. Someday I will do a real "test drive" and have a more informed opinion...

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    Re: OSX vs. XP

    WHEW ! ! !

    John - you actually covered it all for me. I have been playing with Linux Live CD Distro (Knoppix), Linspire Linux but waiting for MAC due to price.

    I know several people who love there MAC's, and claim that with "Microsoft Startup" applications to edit/modify music, video, multimedia in general - MAC's are more reasonably priced. Of course, Vista is geared to removing some of those "Advantages".

    Also, Apple has introduced new computers with Intel chip sets - this means third party hardware will work on the machines (same as Windows PC's).

    From asking people who own MAC's and have converted to OS X , ALL have tried loading a MS XP OS. With a couple of exceptions on getting the partitions setup correctly initially, all have claimed to have good success and love the dual boot option (all is defined as 8 people) - Take that for what it is worth.

    Like you, I plan to wait until Vista comes out. If Vista turns out to be half as good as MS claims, I expect (hope, DREAM ?) Apple will be pushing OS X.? to run on Intel chip sets to compete ...

    THEN the Fun can REALLY begin !
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    Re: OSX vs. XP

    Thanks Scott, you also reminded me that I'll possibly wait for quad-core technology to make its debut as well before i start building. A lot of exciting things are going on in the technology world these days <img src=/S/thumbup.gif border=0 alt=thumbup width=15 height=15>

    oh, and i should take advantage of the topic to use a certain smiley in this thread... <img src=/S/pcvmac.gif border=0 alt=pcvmac width=137 height=30> <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15>
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    Re: OSX vs. XP

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    <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15> I FORGOT <img src=/S/confused3.gif border=0 alt=confused3 width=45 height=45> about quad core <img src=/S/exclamation.gif border=0 alt=exclamation width=15 height=15>
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    Re: OSX vs. XP

    <hr>However, whenever I play with a Mac at the Apple Store, I find just enough differences -- not least of which is that missing right mouse button <hr>
    <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20> Have you not seen the new (or the old, for that matter) Mighty Mouse <img src=/S/question.gif border=0 alt=question width=15 height=15>

    Also, any USB mouse will work (without drivers) in multi-button mode with a Mac

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    Re: OSX vs. XP

    A MAC nowadays is a great buy. The best reason, you can run OS X and WIndoze on it, even dual boot it. This way, if you don't like OS X, you can just use WIndoze, no wasted money.
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    Hasta la vista, Vista

    It just got better! See Mac Pro. Also a sneak-peak at Leopard

    Edited to add:
    Suggested configuration:
    Two 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon "Woodcrest" processors
    4MB shared L2 cache per processor
    1.33GHz dual independent frontside buses
    1GB memory (667MHz DDR2 fully-buffered DIMM ECC)
    NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT graphics with 256MB memory
    250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7200-rpm hard drive1
    16x double-layer SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD

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    Re: Hasta la vista, Vista

    I think I NEED that!!! Gotta talk to the CFO (wife)
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    Re: Hasta la vista, Vista

    Any chance TUX will make an appearance on the Mac if the CFO approves of the purchase?
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    Re: Hasta la vista, Vista

    Darn tootin'! Its all planned, VMWare GSX with Windoize, OS X and Gentoo on top. AWESOME!!!
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    Re: OSX vs. XP

    Joe,
    Your thread got a little hijacked here, and I'm partially to blame. However we now know a few things that we didn't know last week.

    Leopard (or Vista 2.0 as Apple called it at the recent conference) will not be out until 'next spring'. That's officially after MS release of Vista, but it has been delayed before. You won't see either this year.

    As mentioned all Macs are now shipping with Intel processors. This means that you can install both Windows and OS X on separate partitions of your hard drive. You will have to buy a version of Windows, so there is a small additional cost ($100 or so I think). Beware though - I would expect Apple to sell off all of their unsold non-Intel Macs at bargain prices over the next weeks. Make sure the machine you buy has Intel processors.

    Good luck

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