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    Re: Routers, Continued

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by DaveA on 15-Aug-06 08:12. Added URL code)</P>Sorry for the delay. I was called out of town unexpectedly.

    I installed MS Photo Editor and have not had time to try to figure out what is wrong. I did the Alt Print Screen and Special pasted it to MS Photo Editor. The result was so blurred that you couldn't read the numbers. I will try to see what's causing the problem.

    I have made a little progress on connection.

    All pings on all 3 machine are OK.

    I am able to connect from the Dell to the Gateway but not to the laptop. The laptop can connect to the Gateway but not to the Dell. The Gateway can not connect to either the laptop or the Dell.

    I tried loggin on to all 3 machine as Testnet but that created some other problems. I need to do that again and document the connections. Will post those results when completed. So far, I have had more success logging on to each computer normally rather than as Testnet.

    I have printed out all the threads and am working my way through again to see what I may have missed. I want to revisit Stuart's excellent post 589,833 and an article found at http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_...ls/wxpin9x.html entitled "Networking between Windows XP and Windows 95/98/ME.

    Once again I thank you and everyone else for all the assistance given.

    Tom

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    Routers, Continued

    Waiting to hear from Tom...

    Edited to add this link to the initial thread: <post:=590,200>post 590,200</post:>

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    Re: Routers, Continued

    All network connections are now working except from the laptop to the Dell and from the Gateway to the Dell.

    As Stuart pointed out the problem seems to me a mismatch between the username/password defined o the XP and the username/password used when making the logon to the window 98 system. This is confirmed in the article "Networking between WindowsXP and Windows95/98/ME previously sited.

    The Dell is being seen on the Gateway and laptop but I get a request to enter a password that the article says on an XP Professional system is a mismatch between the username/password defined o the XP and the username/password used when making the logon to the window 98 system. I don't know if this is true on a Home edition system or not. If the password is entered it says that the password is incorrect.

    I created a Testnet user on the XP with a password. I then rebooted the Gateway and logged on as Testnet with the same password. I have also logged on to the Gateway as Tom with a password and have a Tom user on the Dell with the same password. Neither logon makes any difference.

    I'm at a loss to know how to solve the mismatch problem.

    Tom

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    Re: Routers, Continued

    I would suggest you make sure both the username, and the password is typed exactly the same on each machine - including upper and lower case letters. From what I can recall with Win9x / ME systems, they weren't too picky with case sensitivity, however Win2K / XP are very sensitive. You can simply re-type the passwords on each machine, however matching the username isn't so easy. To match these, you'll need to delete, and re-create them (or make a new, totally different, user account).
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    Re: Routers, Continued

    Thanks. I rebooted the Gateway (W98) and got the normal request to "Enter your network password for Microsoft /Networking." I entered the username as Testnet which is the same as on the Dell (XP). The first T is capitalized and the remainder is lowercase. The passwords are the same and all lowercase.

    There still seems to be a mismatch because when I go to network neighborhood on the Gateway and double click on Dell2, I still am getting the request "You must supply a password to make this connection." Resource Dell2IPC$. If I don't enter anything in the password and click OK or enter the logon password in all lowercase, I get "The password is incorrect. Try again."

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    Re: Routers, Continued

    Maybe the problem is not setting up the user name and passwork correctly on the Windows 98 and Windows ME systems. I am trying to locate instructions. For example, when I rebooted the Gateway system, I entered Testnet as the user name and then the password. The first time I did that the computer loaded/saved some information and then the system came up. I did nothing else to set up the new user Testnet. A similar procedure was used to set up Testnet on the laptop.

    Does anyone know if there are additions steps that are necessary to set up a new user in W 98 or ME? Unfortunately, I can not see the users on the laptop or Gateway as you can on the XP machine.

    Tom

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    Re: Routers, Continued

    I can not see the users on the laptop or Gateway as you can on the XP machine.

    Hi Tom,

    If you have more than one user on your Win98 (type -ME SE) computers, you should be able to go to C drive/Windows/Profiles/ and see your newly created user there. I just set up "Test" on an old 98ME that I have upstairs and can see that user - Test. I didn't do anything fancy with it. And I am sorry but at the moment, I can't check if I can log into the network since I don't have a network card for this computer. But my point is that you can see the users you created if you have more than one user on the Win98 machines by going to the Profile folder. (Maybe I'll find a NIC card and try this out yet....you really have my curiosity going about this problem!


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    Re: Routers, Continued

    I have checked from the Gateway and can see that I have both Tom and Testnet as users. That at least confirms that Testnet was properly set up and is exactly the same as on the Dell. Why the Gateway can't connect to the Dell remains unsolved.

    A few minutes ago, I sent an E-mail to the author of the article I referenced in an earlier post "Networking between WindowsXP and Windows 95/98/ME. I have no idea whether or not he will respond. I think he live in England.

    Thanks for telling how to view users on windows 98.

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    Re: Routers, Continued

    Oh boy, I do hate to ask this again, but it's something so simple to learn and would provide the picture that worth the proverbial 1,000 words: It would really help if you could learn to make and post a screenshot to show us what you see when one of us asks! Here's why:

    Way back in <post:=592,361>post 592,361</post:> of the original thread I suggested that you share the entire C: drive on each machine, even if you want to un-share it when we're done with this problem. You need to make sure you've done this, for I don't for the life of me understand why you're getting the IPC$ thingie when you try to view the shares on the Dell with XP Home. If you have shared the C: drive on the Dell, with EVERYONE, you should see that when you open Network Neighborhood.

    Therein is the reason for my (again) request for a screenshot. If you will open Windows Explorer and in the left pane, drill down in Network Neighborood (it's called My Network Places in WinME and WinXP) and when you get to the machine you're trying to view, you should see something like MY screenshot here, NOT any IPC$ entries.

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    Re: Routers, Continued

    I'm afraid I have become a little confused by the DELL, Gateway, Windows 98, Windows ME etc terms we are using here. Could we please have a little table that shows

    <table border=1><td>PC Name</td><td>Operating System</td><td>Can you log in as Testnet</td><td>What shares have you created on this PC</td><td>Can it see shares on other PCs when you browse to them</td></table>

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    Re: Routers, Continued

    Hi,
    First, let me admit that I have not read through all the posts in this thread, so forgive me if this has been covered!

    AFAIK, Windows XP Home uses the Guest account for networking, regardless of who you are logged in as. I cannot remember back to Windows 98 (and have blotted the abomination of ME out of my head) but would assume that the guest account was there then - hopefully someone can verify or correct me as necessary. It may be worth just checking that the Guest accounts on all machines either have the same or no password.

    PS I could not get through on the link in your post re XP to 98 networking.
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    Re: Routers, Continued

    Eureka!
    All connections are now working properly.

    I think the problem was with the guest account on the XP. I tried to log on to the guest account but it said it did not recognize the password. It gave me the option to turn off the passwork and that unblocked access to the Dell.

    Now when I go to User Accounts in the Control Panel, the only options for the Guest Account are now "To change the picture" and "To turn off the guest account."
    I do not see anyway to add a password to the guest account. Since the network is finally working, I think I will leave well enough alone. I really have no need to have a password on the Guest account.

    I want to thank everyone again for all the assistance and patience in getting my network running properly . The lounge is the greatest . I hope all the information given to me will prove to be beneficial to others in the future who may encounter a similar problem.

    Tom

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    Re: Routers, Continued

    I'm glad to hear the good news that you got it working! <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23> <img src=/S/thumbup.gif border=0 alt=thumbup width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Routers, Continued

    Thanks for your assistance.

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