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    Re: More grist for the mill

    Just goes to prove what I've always believed: To be safe, it is more important how you have your computer set up than what antivirus you are using. Of course that doesn't work too well for the casual user.

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    Re: More grist for the mill

    I hope the tester adds some other popular products on the next round, including F-Secure, McAfee. Trend Micro, and the AV bundled with ZoneAlarm. Perhaps budgetary constraints shaped the initial list.

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    Re: More grist for the mill

    McAfee???! Hasn't the verdict on McAfee in the Lounge been clearly stated?

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    Re: More grist for the mill

    Agree - Have to wonder if the test was not geared more for businesses based on the products choosen. Of course this is the "Major" area - right ?!?!?
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    Re: More grist for the mill

    > Hasn't the verdict on McAfee in the Lounge been clearly stated?

    Well, according to this Gartner press release, McAfee was second behind Symantec in total AV software revenues last year. Even if you wouldn't consider it yourself, shouldn't all of the top products be included in the test??

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    Re: More grist for the mill

    > Have to wonder if the test was not geared more for businesses based on the products choosen.

    I think some of the AV products tested -- BitDefender, Kaspersky, NOD32 -- could be considered business oriented. I suspect the version of Norton Antivirus tested was the home version, and Avast (free) and AVG (free) probably are not widely used in business.

    I also think it's a bit confusing to list pure anti-spyware products with antivirus products in the same table as being able, for example, to find malware inside a ZIP archive when quite different types of malware appear to have been used for the test.

    But clearly a ton of work went into that article, particularly in concocting such complex tests. I certainly don't want to discourage the effort!

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    Re: More grist for the mill

    <hr>I certainly don't want to discourage the effort!<hr>

    Totally agree ! I just would like to see a little more thought and conclusion analysis.

    For example - in lieu of trying to make the report an end all for all users, provide the information with discussion on two basic types of users (Business and Home). I think the article is useful, but could provide a little more definitive data on how users can the information to make determinations.

    Fortunately, with a forum like Woody's Lounge people can get a diverse set of opinions that will help them make decisions.
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    Re: More grist for the mill

    I always shudder a bit every time I read one of these types of articles, for how really (technically) un-knowledgeable I am in this area - as are, I think, most users. Every time someone publishes a project like this, the "shortcomings and failures" are enough to make one afraid to use ANY of the products listed. As I've said before in The Lounge, I've used Norton, McAfee, TrendMicro, Avg and Avast over the years and every day I just try to watch my surfing and email habits, for I know that really, if some bad guy wanted to get to me, he'd figure out a way! If you jumped ship from one AV product to another every time someone published their study, you'd never settle on anything.

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    Re: More grist for the mill

    >I just would like to see a little more thought and conclusion analysis.

    More is to come, evidently:

    "I'm resisting making more specific conclusions as this test is only the first of several I'll be conducting in the second half of 2006. In the coming months I'll be looking at virtualization products, IDS/IPS utilities and some other categories as well.

    "By the time this series is completed, I'll have some specific recommendations for you on the best way to protect your computer against the latest generation of threats. These recommendations will be based on facts rather than vendor hype or commercial affiliation."

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    Re: More grist for the mill

    <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15> Read it ....

    Unfortunately, I didn't quite make myself clear. I should have added "... IN THAT REPORT."

    Being slightly impatient <img src=/S/stupidme.gif border=0 alt=stupidme width=30 height=30>, I was hoping for something more definitive. My current needs being the two college student computers I'm putting together. I can find numerous comparisons, but not a lot of recommendations with sound analysis to back them up.

    Having said that, I liked the report and the caution behind NOT making the recommendations at this time. I will look forward to any updates and recommendations that are made.

    At some point (as Larry the Cable Guy would say) ....

    Git er done !!! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    I will make a decision based on logic, research, analysis, student input, highly honed skill <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17>in other words - <big> GUESS <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> </big> and adjust from there.
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