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    Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    My first copy of Office XP Professional is on its way to me at this very moment (OEM on a new laptop). I'm one of the people who finds (or creates) a need to reformat and rebuild my computer 3 or 4 times a year - sometimes just out of pure boredom!

    I'm curious how I can avoid contacting Microsoft for the Activation Code for repeated software rebuilds on the same computer (after the initial call, of course).

    I understand they allow 3 activations via internet and after that one must call Microsoft to activate. I've read that you can save the activation code that MS gives you over the phone and reuse it on the same machine for future activations. Is this true?

    And, does the internet activation option give you a number to save for future reference?

    If nothing else, I'll find the answer to these questions and many more in just a matter of days...

    Thanks in Advance!! <img src=/S/bow.gif border=0 alt=bow width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    For OEM versions, the process is different.
    It depends on your OEM.

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    For oem, the process is similar to retail, except you are limited to one computer - the OEM. Many OEMs preactivate so you only need to do it if you restore or replace a lot of hardware.

    if the hardware doesn't change, you can always use the internet to register.

    there is also a method of saving activation, it involves locating a file called data.dat that is created after the first activation. if you wipe the drive and reinstall, you can replace it instead of using the wizard to reactivate.

    the location of the file varies with the OS - the easiest way to find it is to search for it - showing all files, including system. Note where it was found so you know where to restore it to. this file is subject to the same limitations are reactivating over the internet - if the hardware changes are too great, you'll need to activate normally and save the new file.

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    Thanks MaryJ, <img src=/S/bow.gif border=0 alt=bow width=15 height=15>

    That's exactly what I was looking for! <img src=/S/joy.gif border=0 alt=joy width=23 height=23>

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    I forget to mention you can no longer save and reuse the code from the phone calls. it works only for office 2000. Using the phone to activate offers no advantage with officexp and is needed only if the screen says to phone it in.

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    OH!!!!!! Now that is a giant step to validate my position that I will never put any of MS software with the Registration/Activation wizard on any of my computers.
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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    what is a giant step? that the phone codes change each time now? or that OEM copies are only for the computer they are sold with?

    will you use other companies software that requires activation? i saw the other day that quickbooks was mentioned as one that not only required activation, but also forced registration. (office only requires activation, not registration)

    anyway, if you are a developer, what choice do you have if your clients install it?

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    Both!

    No, I will not install software from any vendor that requires registration/activation. So far, MS is the only one heading down this suicidal path.

    I will develop for versions that do not require the registration/activation and I will be starting to learn Linux.
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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    intuit does from what i was told. others will follow, depending on how bad they feel pirating is hurting them and how well this works.

    have you seen the information at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.licenturion.com/xp/>http://www.licenturion.com/xp/</A> yet?

    linux is not a vialble solution for millions of users for at least a few more years, if at all.

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    Yup. However, that is totally irrelevant to my objections.

    I object because I do not want to have to call in and argue with some affirmative action clerk about getting a key to let me reinstall a product that I have paid to use. I do enough hardware and software testing that I will typically exhaust my three installs within a month or two at the most on my test bed systems. I also remember the nightmares that restoring system backups caused when Lotus, Ashton Tate, and a few others had copy protection. I can see myself trying to restore a backup in 8 years to recover some data that the IRS is demanding!
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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    With Linux and similar applications being open source, I would believe that we should see some exponential growth in the near future as some of the best innovation has come from people "thinking out of the box". I remember the days when I was using a TRS-80, attempting to learn Fortran on a mainframe which wouldn't make one-third of my current pc, and the MS team was just pulling the first version of MSDOS together. Look where we are now!

    As people learn open source they realize the possibilities are endless, because you are not limited by constraints imposed by anyone other than yourself. Too bad these days that a lot of companies effectively stifle innovation by forcing employees to conform their ideas to something which "fits" company goals. And this comes from someone who is guilty of the very same thing!

    Not to say that open source apps and OS are flawless...just to say that these flaws will probably have a remarkably fast rate of correction.

    My two cents....

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    That applies mostly if you're a programmer and want to do things your way. The vast majority of computer users are NOT programmers and don't want to be. They want to turn it on, hit a few keys and get something familiar that they can use.

    That's one of the primary reasons that Windows became so successful in the first place, it let users work across applications and talk to the hardware without really knowing what was going on underneath the surface. To businesses, that translates into productivity, and they'll opt for that every time over innovation, especially when the employees may not have the same "vision" that the management has. That's a good way to run a business straight into bankruptcy.
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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    OK OK...I surrender! (LOL)

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    OK - the computer arrived and I've been throuh the (surprisingly painless) pains of internet Activation for Office XP.

    The system is a Dell Inspiron 8000 with Win2000. There is no data.dat file on the system. Is there any chance that it goes by a different name?

    Also, you mentioned that I can always use the internet to register if the hardware stays the same. Does that mean that the 3 registration rule only applies to different hardware setups?

    Thanks for your most helpful advice <img src=/S/bow.gif border=0 alt=bow width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Registration/Activation Wizard (XP/2002)

    on my win2k and winxp machines, it's at
    Cocuments and SettingsAll UsersApplication DataMicrosoftOfficeDatadata.dat
    and is just under 4kb. It's a hidden file, you need to show all in tools > folder options > view.

    Everything i've seen/heard/been told is yes, you can reactivate as much as you want on the same hardware, it's only if the hardware changes that reactivation may be needed and that is when your activation count is used. The number (3) is lower than what i have seen mentioned for retail versions but OEM licenses will have different counts. Microsoft has never mentioned what the limit is, only that one does exist.

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