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    Hi All,


    How can I tell if a keyboard logger is in my pc?

    I'v run anti-spy SW and nothing. I checked the processes in the win Task manager and all looks kosher. I don't see any suspious pgms. But a good logger should be devious enough to avoid these.

    I use Spybot and Verizon's SW from its DSL service.

    TIA

    Fred

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    Re: keyboard logger

    Fred,
    There is a stand alone key logger detector you can DL <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15> at KEYLOGGER
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    Re: keyboard logger

    Hi Fred,

    Sounds good to me.

    I also run Spybot S&D from Safer-Networking.Org, but for North America. If you look towards the bottom of the page, there is a Tools link. Some of the tools include "Suspicious File Locator" and "Suspicious File Packer".

    I also started to use Safer-Networking.Org new Beta program RunAlyzer which:
    <hr>RunAlyzer is our brand-new autostart & configuration manager that allows you to view and edit all the spots where Windows looks for programs or services to start. It's a combination of a standard configuration manager and an advanced tool to locate and remove places where hijackers, spyware and other malware hide.

    RunAlyzer is currently in beta status, but already providing a bunch of features. You can find out more on our forums.<hr>

    I also use a good AntiVirus program and <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15> ZoneAlarm Firewall.

    If you suspect you do have a keyboard logger program that your computer system is not catching. Use the Firewall to block ALL trafic to the iinternet unless you SPECIFICALLY allow access each time. Temporary measure for a couple of days to see if an application is trying to access the internet you are not familiar with. This can be a pain as auto updates will require manually allowed internet access.

    I'm working on a notebook right now where Explorer is trying to access the internet just after bootup. Except the notebook never did this previously. Although the reason could be legit, I'm having trouble finding the root application or service causing Windows Explorer to attempt internet access. I have removed almost all of the auto load programs, temporarily disabled automatic updates for all programs, and blocked automatic internet access through the Firewall. When the problem still happened, I tried Safe Vs Normal bootup. In Safe mode - the problem STOPPED - Thus I am getting closer to the solution.

    Hope this helps.
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    Re: keyboard logger

    Bob,

    I saw this back in July of this year but was hesitant to use it based on the Keylogger Detector 1.1.1 User Reviews. Also the program is <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15> to try for 7 days, then you have to pay $59.95.

    I didn't know anyone who had used it, much less could comment on it.
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    Re: keyboard logger

    Bob,

    I just saw Scott's reply to you after looking at the web site you posted. The reviews were terrible - 3 votes out of 1200+ downloads and an average rating of 1 star out of 5.

    One review said "stay away from this" and found nothing positive to report. It also said that the product thought it was in day 7 of the free 7-day trial.

    The other review said "dont [sic] bother," had nothing positive to report either, it was a pain to uninstall, and it didn't work. It also suggested there were less expensive programs similar to this that actually did work. So I'm off to google the category.

    While I know that 2 votes hardly consists of a significant verdict, I'm very concerned about using it given the reviews. Have you had any experience with it?

    Thanks for the input.

    Fred

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    Re: keyboard logger

    Hi Scott,

    Thks for the info.

    I think I'll start with the Tools Link on Spybot S&D.

    Then I'll step up to RunAnlyzer. I note this is a beta product. Since you said you're actually running it, how have you found this to be?

    If nothing, then I'll start playing with the Firewalls (I have the Win firewall on this computer; used to have Zone Alarm on the old computer but don't recall why I didn't load it on this new one).

    Fred

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    Re: keyboard logger

    Fred,

    I just started using RunAnlyzer about 2 days ago. So far I have nothing major to report. I had a glitch initially installing the software but managed to un-install and re-install with no problem. I'm just starting to use it. I will report back anything of interest I find out.

    I would recommend reading RunAlyzer Forum before downloading the program. The forum has a lot of useful information. Remember - when a program is in Beta - there is no guarantee you won't have problems.

    Make sure you have a backup of your data and hard drive just in case. From what I have read and seen so far, this should be an extemely useful tool.

    Although you never mentioned the OS you wee using, RunAlyzer and Spybot S&D run on all MS OS as far as I can tell.
    Scott

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    Re: keyboard logger

    > How can I tell if a keyboard logger is in my pc?

    Apart from scans for known malware, it is useful to scan for rootkits (which can hide malware) and to keep your outbound communications tightly controlled by your firewall.

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    Re: keyboard logger

    I don't think you can ever be completely sure. One type of keylogger is a physical tap of the line from the keyboard to the PC, and might be very difficult to detect other than by physical examination!

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    Re: keyboard logger

    Hi Scott,

    The OS is Win XP.

    Let me know what happens with RunAlyzer.

    I did run the Suspicious File Locator (in both "modes" - the "regular" scan and the right-click on the scan button). It did not look like there was anything. I think Safer Netwoking wants me to email the files for their analysis but all the files seemed OK - I recognized the names so didn't email anything.

    Fred

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    Re: keyboard logger

    Thanks Jefferson.

    >Apart from scans for known malware, it is useful to scan for rootkits (which can hide malware)

    Huh? What are rootkits and how does one scan for them.

    As far as the firewall goes, I have the Win firewall installed and active. I turned on logging the other day but not sure the trace is meaningful. What I saw, for example, were lines like:

    2006-09-09 21:12:09 OPEN UDP 192.168.1.47 192.168.1.1 1087 53 - - - - - - - - -

    I know what UDP and TCP (in other lines) are all about. But the IP addresses and port numbers don't have much meaning to me.

    Scott had suggested Zone Alarm (which I had on another computer). I working my way thru a few other suggestions before loading that again.

    Fred

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    Stuart,

    Thanks. I should have mentioned this is a laptop.

    Fred

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    Re: keyboard logger

    You really ought to get ZA (or something) for the Windows firewall doesn't monitor OUTGOING traffic!

    Rootkits: Here's a little Lounge reading material to start you out: <post:=533,824>post 533,824</post:> as well as <post:=595,352>post 595,352</post:>.

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    Re: keyboard logger

    Thanks Al.

    I didn't notice the wording in the Win Firewall screen talking about incoming traffic/connections until now. Will get ZA.

    Any problems having both Win FW and ZA running at same time? Should I disable the Win FW?

    Fred

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    Only one firewall at a time. ZA should disable the Windows FW on installation.
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