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    Scary Spybot results

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    Today I updated Spybot and did a scan, and it came back with some - to me - bizarre results: most of the hits were labeled Windows Security Center!
    I've attached a screenshot of the entries in question.
    I'm reluctant to remove them unless I know for sure that it's not really Windows entries being reported - I'm concerned that somehow something is trying to disable Windows Security by reporting key registry entries as spyware.
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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    I'm not sure what the heck this is, but I checked all processes running on this PC just now, since I started getting popups (which I never usually get) and 3 of 4 family members are currently logged in.
    Each active userid has a process running called pizza.exe. Does anyone know what the heck this is? I've never seen it before. I asked my son if it might be connected to some online game he might have been playing but he didn't know what it was either.

    <img src=/S/cooked.gif border=0 alt=cooked width=50 height=46> Auggghhhhhhh - I just logged into my wife's userid and found a series of popup messages saying that Kerio failed to start - no wonder the popups, weird behavior and other assorted horrors!
    But I'm still worried about the Spybot catches above.
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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    See the second post in this thread, found from a Google search of one of the messages you got from Spybot.

    On your second post I suspect you have answered your own question, because how likely do you think it is that Microsoft would produce a file called PIZZA.EXE?! Have you tried searching the hard disk in Windows Explorer for this file, to see in which folder it is located?

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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    To second John's post on the "<font color=red>RED</font color=red>" Windows Scurity notifications. When I have manual updates, shut off Windows Notifications, shut off Windows Firewall - Spybot provides the same warnings. If you want these on, let Spybot "Fix" them. If you are like me and do NOT want them er-activated, highligh each item, right mouse click, and select do not include these in future searches.
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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    FWIW, the current issue of PC World has a review of five antispyware programs, three paid and two free. The free programs, Lavasoft Ad-Aware and Spybot Search and Destroy, are rated "fair" (number four and five). (Be sure to click the link to the review chart at the bottom of the first page.) One bit of advice in the article, often repeated in the Forum, is to use more than one program.

    One question I've had is can there be too much reundancy, i.e., running three, four, or more, and noticeably bogging down the system?

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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    > can there be too much reundancy, i.e., running three, four, or more, and noticeably bogging down the system?

    Only real-time protection can bog down the system. So if Spybot S&D's TeaTimer and ActiveX watchers are running, and MS Defender is running, and the firewall is watching, and the antivirus suite is sniffing, yeah, a lot of processes will be working away. Whether the system gets bogged down may depend on how efficiently each does its job, and whether the others all have to wait in line or can operate simultaneously.

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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    Jefferson,

    I appreciate your response, but it seems significant variables might or might not drag down the system, so I'm still uncertain about an answer to my question: "if . . . watchers are running," efficiency of programs, "whether" programs "wait in line or can operate simultaneously." I'm not paranoid about spyware or malware--I just want to be relatively safe without slowing down processes more than they are already. I suspect, though, there is no definitive answer.

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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    I agree, too many variables. Also, how much do you want to spend on AntiSpyware? If you use strict limits on ActiveX (to limit "drive-by" installs), download cautiously, view email skeptically, keep Windows patched, avoid side doors like file sharing and IRC, use a good firewall and keep backups, then I think it's overkill to run more than one or two AS programs. On the other hand, if you like to try things before you can find reliable information from others, then perhaps two is not enough!!

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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    Your observation/advice is right on! It confirms what I'm doing. Thanks.

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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    Ah, but when you factor 2 low-end teenagers into the equation, all bets are usually off. Or so I've found.

    And pizza.exe is in the root directory. Was, that is.

    And the reason for the Microsoft warnings makes sense - within the last month I abandoned pcCillin and moved over to Avast! AV instead - I was suddenly unable to get pcCillin to start, and as a result was constantly getting Windows warnings that I had no AV protection. It was a scary couple of days, as you can imagine, while I tried to wade through Trend Micro's labyrinthine help pages in search of a way to report a problem with the software, as opposed to reporting a virus. There is, it turns out, no way to do so. If the Help feature doesn't help , then I don't care if I paid for it or not - that software is going in the garbage.
    Anyway, Spybot said it had been around 2 months since my last scan, so that would have been before I ditched pcCillin - which Windows recognized in the Security center. Now the Security Center is turned off - I use Kerio Firewall and Avast! AV, and I got tired (and a bit nervous) about Windows insisting I install the same patch over and over again - one that would report to Microsoft if I was using a valid version of XP, too. I bought my version of XP on the up-and-up, but I've always been less than comfortable with the idea that a product as buggy as Windows will be deciding whether or not my copy of Windows is legal or not. And since my only recourse would be to buy another copy of Windows to make them happy, I'd rather bypass the hassle - so I do manual updates instead.
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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    Talk about bizarre - I went to that PCWorld article, and when I clicked on the link for the reviews, I got a PC World subscription popup that would NOT close. And then I got another popup for WinAntivirus Pro 2006 - and I couldn't close THAT either. Thank goodness for C-A-D!

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.
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    Re: Scary Spybot results

    For PC-cillin, you get free support on a toll-free phone number listed here: http://www.trendmicro.com/en/support/contact.htm. Too late now, I suppose, but it wasn't hard to find from the Trend Micro web site home page (in the top nav bar: Support > in the right nav bar: Contact Support > U.S. & Canada). Personally, I usually use email submit, from the web site, so I can give a detailed description without having to worry about interruptions. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> The downside there, at least for the business products, is having to enter serial numbers and all sorts of other details when usually I'm in a hurry.

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