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    Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    Is there any way to make the Connectors window that is available in Draw when using PowerPoint available in Word 97 as well?

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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    Is what you want available in the Organisational Chart, I'm due in a meeting shortly and cannot remember how to fire it up, sorry. It does allow for boxes with a selection of connectors.
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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    We are trying to draw fairly simple process flowcharts. I've tried Org Chart and it will not do what we want. We can achieve all that we want in PowerPoint and Excel using the Draw Toolbar. In Excel and PowerPoint, connectors come available that snap to the midpoints of the sides of each AutoShape. This specific function is not available in Word despite the fact that all other functions seems to be the same.

    For a flow chart in PowerPoint or Excel, once the lines are drawn, if you move shapes around, the lines stay connected. Copy the chart to Word and the connectivity disappears. The downsides of using both these alternatives are that in Powerpoint, a new template needs to be developed so that the font sizes are something suitable for online viewing or printing. In Excel, the chart must be copied and pasted into word and there are problems if an inexperienced user tries to paste and changes the format while pasting.

    The handy thing about using PowerPoint is that you can insert the whole slide and if it has no slide template added, the chart pastes in nicely but when trying to edit in Word, the connectivity between lines and shapes is lost again.

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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    HI Geoff,

    See what you mean. I gave up on Org Chart myself sometime ago and use a 3rd party product Micrografx (sic) FlowCharter, and not much of that these days.

    My only other suggestion is to look at dedicated product, assume of course you can justify the cost.

    Good luck.
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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    I have had to do lots of these over the years. My preferred tool is Visio (since version 2).

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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    Thanks Granville and Ian

    Lucky we weren't playing just Wales at Rugby this weekend Granville, eh!

    I agree with what you both say. My clients have regarded me as a Flowcharter whizz for some years. This current client is using Visio and I have come to grips with that pretty well today and I like it. But the issue is that we want to drive a TQM/Business Process Improvement culture through the company and provide ways where any member of staff can feel confident that they can make a contribution. Providing a Visio license for every seat in the company is not an option.

    My real question is, in the name of all that is sane and rational, 'why is MS Draw selective in its functionality?'

    Cheers, Geoff

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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    An alternative that might meet both your diagramming and budget requirements is <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.vbonline.com/vbonline/list/allclear.htm>AllClear from SPSS</A>. The key feature it provides is automatically creating diagrams from text scripts.

    It would be fairly easy to create a libray of customized script templates which could be used to create diagrams on a single or few stations.

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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    AllClear has changed since I last looked at it, not the least, it has been sold to <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.proquis.com/allclear/mainmenu.asp#StartOfPage>Proquis</A>

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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    It also has a price tag that, while not up there with Visio, is much more expensive than using MS Draw.
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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    With the dual nationality I bound to be on the winning side of almost any important Rugby series in the world.

    Understand what you say about cost, I'm about to have the same problem with PowerPoint. Head Office, with 10 users wants all companies to give PP to all users, 45 at my site, and most would only use it about twice a year. "But it makes it easier for us." - direct quote for 1 HO walla. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    The Springbox last weekend, who's next?

    What you need is Draw98, an addin for Word97 that should give you all you want. You can enter flowchart symbols, add text in them and then apply connectors. The connecting lines can be straight, right-angled bends or curvy. The connecting lines will follow the shape objects around as you drag them. The addin (draw98.exe) should be available on the M$ dowload site.
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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> Sounds typical. Did they ever explain what it made easier?
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    Re: Using MS Draw (Office 97)

    <img src=/S/flee.gif border=0 alt=flee width=25 height=25>Query Head Office <img src=/S/warts.gif border=0 alt=warts width=59 height=24> on the thought. (I think we need "shudder" and "perish" smilies.)
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