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    New to Visio

    I have just learned to day that I will be teaching Visio soon ... and I have not experience with it. Obviously, I will have to come up to speed quickly ... I am quite proficient in Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Windows, Frontpage, and the Lotus Products... anyone have any advice on learning this program quickly .. any pitfalls that I should know. <img src=/S/meltdown.gif border=0 alt=meltdown width=15 height=15>

    I'll take any and all advice offered... Thanks, Chance

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    Re: New to Visio

    Random thoughts... <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16> If you have decided what it is that you are going to teach and which version, then I would make up some examples that illustrate what you want to teach and then walk students through how you got there. I would start with the basics, of course, how to open the app, how to use templates and stencils, and maybe other basics and then show your students how each "graphic" was created. This gives you some experience and also an understanding of how you created them. Then I would give them an exercise to create a graphic similar to the one you have used as an example. You might also want to search the web and look for other people/organizations that teach Visio and see what they do and, if possible, how they do it. There are also a couple of books out there on more recent versions of Visio. These may be helpful in deciding what you teach and how. Regardless, I have always found that my students learn better by doing, thus the suggestion of the exercises, if your teaching facility is setup to allow students to "participate".

    HTH <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: New to Visio

    Thanks for the good thoughts ... I don't know what version of Visio my client is running. Won't know specifics until I go back in on Tuesday. They tend to be behind ... i.e., Office '97. Our training company uses Element K materials (although I usually supplement it because it NEVER goes into the features in enough depth.) Reason I'm in this position is because it's my client's request and the trainer who usually teaches this has gone on to greener pastures. Also firm believer in hands on ... and my classroom at my client is set up for 8 students hands on ... and I don't overbook the classes. You can't learn this stuff with out the practical application. Is this a difficult program to learn?

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    Re: New to Visio

    Visio 5.0 was the previous release of Visio, but it wasn't a Microsoft product at that point and there are definite differences between it and Visio 2000. You need to find out what release of Visio they have, because 5.0 has been out for quite a while.

    You also need to know which version of the release they use, because there is a huge difference between Visio Technical, and Standard or Professional (yes there were 3+ versions of Visio 5.0, including one for home layouts but the name of that one escapes me) or between Visio 2000 versions (I think there are 4+ now, but I've lost track).

    Visio Technical in either 5.0 or 2000 differs the most from the others because it was intended for things like designing and documenting networks, doing electrical wiring designs, etc. The other versions have some of the scaled down Technical features, along with things like organizational charting, database design, office layouts, etc., etc.

    So teaching "Visio" is an open ended assignment. You have to get them to tell you how they want to be able to use the product. If they don't know, you're in trouble, because learning, or even just becoming familiar with, all its features takes time and effort, especially time.

    This is an extremely powerful and complex program with a bunch of bells and whistles, so you're going to have to try and cover just the areas they think they want to use right now. I wouldn't say it's hard to learn how to use Visio, but it's hard to learn all of its uses and features because there are just too many things it can do. The things that most users want are org charts, flow charts, office layouts, and stuff like that. Developers like the flow charts, database tools, entity relationship diagrams, etc. The program uses VBA as its programming language, but I doubt you'll want to get into that. I'm a programmer and I've used Visio for years without ever bothering to use code with it, so I wouldn't worry about the code part at all.

    There should be samples you can download from the Visio site on Microsoft.com, though, and they should get you started. If the client is using 5.0, you may have to see whether you can track down any of the older samples elsewhere because I don't know if there are any on the Microsoft site. A www.google.com search might turn something up as well.
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    Re: New to Visio

    Charlotte ... thanks for the insight ... my "boss" is a real cheerleader ... and downplays things ... as I suspected the program is not "easy" as he'd suggested. I'm sure there use is technical in nature because this is a manufacturing firm .... and the team requesting the training is manufacturing development ... populated with operations people and engineers ... will I be blown away .... probably ... but I will handle it ... they appreciate ANY help they can get. I know where I can come when I get into it deep. Thanks again, Charlotte your words have helped give me some direction.

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    Re: New to Visio

    Then they're probably using Visio Standard or Professional or possibly Enterprise (if they're using Visio 2000). The features like flowcharting will probably be useful to them, but there are also workflow diagrams and other templates that will be useful.

    Find out if they have any custom templates too. If I remember correctly there are, or at least were in version 5.0, industry-specific templates that could be purchased. If they have any of those, you'll have to get hold of them and see what they include.
    Charlotte

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    Re: New to Visio

    Chance, I would reiterate what Charlotte says about the differences between the different versions, even with the same number, e.g., Visio 5 Technical and Professional editions, etc. If you know PowerPoint, and you indicated you do, then the basics are not that difficult to grasp. It is when you get into some of the more graphical types of things, different types of connectors, custom stencils, layered diagrams, etc., that it quickly becomes a little more complex.

    I have used V4 and have been using V5 for a couple of years, have never seen the need to do anything in VBA, although it is part of the application (maybe I do not understand it well enough?? <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15>) I am mostly self-taught on the product, with a little help from my friends <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>. The major difference you will find from PowerPoint is that in PP you click on a symbol and then draw it the size that you need on the page. In Visio, you move copies of symbols off a stencil or template and position them where you want them on the page and then make them bigger or smaller. Personally, if I need a graphic, I use Visio and then embed the result in a Word document or something similar. PowerPoint is great for presentations and simple graphics, but does not even come close to having the ease of use and range of options that Visio does.

    For me, one of the great features of Visio is the ability to make custom stencils with symbols that I use over and over again in one place. I can also make custom symbols and put them on a custom stencil. Visio also comes with examples, I believe they were called "Samples", that will help you to understand how various drawings were put together. If you need any additional help, or have questions about how something gets done then let me know and maybe we can take this off line through e-mails. There are also some URLs that will provide some help for you. Do a web search using "Visio" as your search term and see what you get. HTH <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: New to Visio

    Again Thanks .. I appreciate knowing I have a resource here at the Lounge .... I AM pretty adept at working with the graphics through-out the Office suite ... so I think I'm going to enjoy this ... my frustration right now is I don't have the program here to play with (nor do I have it at my clients office) ... I'm awaiting my office to send it to me ... I've done a search and found some good stuff at MS (why does that not surprise me?) ... but not much else. I'll keep trying ... I've yet to search ZDNet. I will probably take you up on your offer for assistance once I get the program and a better handle on what I'm dealing with in terms of which program they are using and how they want to use it. I doubt VBA will come into play ... not too many people in the company know VBA or want to for that matter LOL! Your help is much appreciated.

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