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    Jezza Bears computer went hay wire today and started print lines of data


    There is one true statement on this printout
    There are two true statements on this printout
    There are three true statements on this printout
    There are four true statements on this printout
    There are five true statements on this printout
    There are six true statements on this printout
    There are seven true statements on this printout
    There are eight true statements on this printout
    There are nine true statements on this printout
    There are ten true statements on this printout


    Which statement is true?
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    Re: Statement

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">the first one</span hide>
    or alternatively
    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">ALL OF THEM - if all 10 are true, then clearly 1 is true, and 2 are true and...</span hide>

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    Re: Statement

    Have a [choccy bar] for the first answer...

    For some reason I am not too comfortable with the second although I know what you mean. Just a feeling
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    Re: Statement

    I figured there are really <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">a total of 10 true statements on the printout because obviously there is more than 1, more than 2, more than 3, etc. so the 10th statement is the only true statement on the printout!</span hide> <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Statement

    Oh good, a puzzle that has started a debate, I do love it when we disagree with an answer <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

    I tell you why I feel uncomfortable with your answer ( as I did with Stuart's)

    <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold">In my opinion, in this type of logic puzzle you have to accept that each premise is a true statement of fact, similar to the syllogism:

    All chefs are violinists.
    Mary is a chef.
    Is Mary a violinist?

    Two facts and a deduction..... this is true.

    I see the list created by JB's printer defined premises each is true, therefore if the statement says "There are two true statements on this printout" we must (or should) deduct that the other 8 are false.

    Now I would agree with you if the statements started "There areat least two true statements on this printout" etc

    Therefore, I don't agree (and I maybe proved wrong by the logicians) with your answer as to be correct it should have the "at least" inserted into each statement</span hide>

    What do you reckon?
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    Re: Statement

    This is why such terminology is avoided in mathematical parlance, particularly probability - the ambuguity. You'll often see "exactly one", "at least one" and "one and only one", but not simply "one". I guess it's the same situation with "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth"... otherwise there'd be no perjury charges, provided you gave your correct name for instance... then you could lie about all the rest <img src=/S/liar.gif border=0 alt=liar width=25 height=22>

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    Re: Statement

    <hr>I guess it's the same situation with "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth"... <hr>

    This statement always bothers me when the witness is required to only answer yes or no with no explanation. If the witness is required to tell "the whole truth" then a Yes/No answer may not be enough

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    Re: Statement

    So Steve, do you still wear those fishnet stockings with you high heels? (Answer Yes/No) <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Statement

    My point exactly. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17>But to answer your question:
    No I do not. I only wear the fishnets with low heels.
    I wear the high heels to show off my legs and wear no stockings with them <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    I simply see the results of what you have printed out - I do have to revise my answer. <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15> So here goes Skitterbug's logic - <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold"> Since there are a total of 10 statements on the printout - not just one or two, etc. - I feel that #10 is the only true statement.............. <img src=/S/groan.gif border=0 alt=groan width=16 height=15> <img src=/S/groan.gif border=0 alt=groan width=16 height=15> And you know what? As I muddle through my "logical thinking <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> #1 can only be the true answer because there is only one true answer that is within the ten statements and we know that there can't be 10 true answers since 3 is more than 2, and 4 is more than 3, etc. ....... so the right answer is #1......where's my <img src=/S/coffeetime.gif border=0 alt=coffeetime width=32 height=48>....... <img src=/S/surrender.gif border=0 alt=surrender width=31 height=23> no wonder lawyers and courts stick to just the simple yes/no answers....... <img src=/S/igiveup.gif border=0 alt=igiveup width=31 height=23></span hide>

    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17>Now what's this about fishnet hose and heels.......I've got to keep on reading this thread......... <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15>


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    Re: Statement

    Skitter,

    Since you asked so nicely, here is a picture of my fishnet hose and heels.

    StuartR

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    Re: Statement

    <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15>...oh the joy of the English language
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    Re: Statement

    <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> I think I'd better dig out my copy of "Eats, Shoots and Leaves! Punctuation marks in my <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17> comment might have been useful! <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>


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