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    degree symbols print underlined on some printers (Word 97 & 2000)

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    OK I know this is not a Word problem, but I guess the readers of this forum might know about how to solve this! Here goes...

    I've been writing a chemistry thesis, and when I started I used a mixture of the two similar looking degree characters - Alt + 0176 and Alt + 0186 when writing in Word 97. Accoring to the windows 95/98 character map they look pretty much identical, so I usd a mixture of both. 2.5 years on, this was the cause of many headaches....... <img src=/S/dizzy.gif border=0 alt=dizzy width=15 height=15>

    I have noticed that over the years with different printers I've been getting degree symbols with a line underneath. Obviously this resulting symbol does not represent degrees Celsius! It would only happen with some printers (such as certain Apple Laserwriters, HP
    lasers) and be OK on others (even other laserwriters!) I've always thought this was a problem with the drivers used.

    The most recent printouts have been on a HP LaserJet4050N (postscript driver), which does the underline, and a Xerox docucenter which looks normal. To top it all, my workplace has Win2000 with a new character map, which gives the names! 176 is the degree, while 186 is the 'Masculine Ordinal Indicator', something I should never have used.
    Apparently this symbol can sometimes print with an underline depending on printer driver and font!!!!

    If you have a HP laserjet (or other) try this - put the 186 symbol in a word (97/2000/whatever) doc in times font. Now put one in Arial font. Same on screen, print out and the Arial one will be underlined. Now change the print method (on HP printers) from the postscript driver to PCL6. Print again. Now both fonts' symbols will not be underlined!!!

    Is there a way of controlling this so that it will never print underlined????? If I use the HP PCL6 method, all my postscript pictures in my document won't come out! It would be nice to do a global replace, but all the diagrams with degree symbols are embedded
    pictures in the word document.

    Perhaps create a new font that substitutes for arial when printing? Any ideas welcome

    Harv



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    Re: degree symbols print underlined on some printers (Word 97 & 2000)

    Harvey
    Have you tried a find and replace? This way all of your symbols will be correct and you won't have to worry about what printer you're on. Sorry if you already tried it but you didn't mention it.
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    Re: degree symbols print underlined on some printers (Word 97 & 2000)

    Hi there
    Thanks for your reply. I would use the search/replace tool but the degrees I placed in the text of the word document are perfectly OK. I used a keyboard shortcut to do Alt + 0176, and I used it every time.

    The problem ones are the pictures, graphs & diagrams pasted into word from Excel, CorelDraw, and others. These would not be picked up by the word replace tool

    Cheers

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    Re: degree symbols print underlined on some printers (Word 97 & 2000)

    Harvey,

    No solution, just an explanation ... the Masculine Ordinal Indicator is supposed to have an underline (it's used in Spanish, if I remember rightly).

    In a sense, it is a mistake that it doesn't have one in Arial on screen and when printed using PCL6.

    If you look at the location for 0186 in, for instance, Algerian, you'll see the underline right there in the character map. So the postscript driver is only putting in what should have been there anyway.

    I've a horrible feeling you're going to have to go into all those pictures and change them <img src=/S/weep.gif border=0 alt=weep width=21 height=16>

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    Re: degree symbols print underlined on some printers (Word 97 & 2000)

    Have you tried find and replace in the Excel, Powerpoint, etc documents?
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    Re: degree symbols print underlined on some printers (Word 97 & 2000)

    Harvey,

    If they're in pictures, then nothing can find them. They're just bit patterns. I don't think there's any search/replace tool which could find them.
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    Re: degree symbols print underlined on some printers (Word 97 & 2000)

    <font face="Georgia">Thanks everyone for your help

    After playing a bit I found a workaround, but not a real solution. The HP PCL5e print driver does print the Arial masculine indicator without the underline, making it look like a degree. Luckily, the pages I had with the 0186 symbol had no postscript pictures on it. So I just printed those pages on PCL5 while the rest of the 300 pages were with the PS driver.

    I would have used the PCL6 instead of the PCL5e one, but my body text was in Garamond, and PCL6 'squishes' it! <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20>

    Cheers All

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