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    Image Backup (1)

    What is provided by Vista's Image backup.

    1. Can one restore from a boot media?
    2. Can volumes be mounted from the backup archive?
    3. Are such volumes read/write?
    4. What about incremental/differential image backups?
    5. Can there be several independentt image backups?

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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    That's what Acronis True Image 10 does. <IMG SRC=http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/giggle.gif>
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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    Depending on how MSFT implemented image backup in Vista, TI may serve no purpose.

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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    If it's typical MS MO, they might get it to where one can actually trust it by Vista SP2 !! <img src=/S/crossfingers.gif border=0 alt=crossfingers width=17 height=16>
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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    Doc and Pilgrim,
    I will NOT be using the Vista Backup and/or the OneCare Backup, it is still a total waste of ones time and when the likes of TrueImage is still around.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    Dave,

    Methinks you actually meant "Doc and Howard" the two Microsoft naysayers and/or skeptics. I have always been pro-Microsoft unless warranted otherwise and a huge and consistent advocate of True Image. I purchased Acronis True Image version 10 for the explicit purpose of using it with Vista. The inhouse backup for Vista is a great addition for many who have no backup routine whatsoever and/or who refuse to pay for a 3rd-party application such as True Image or Ghost. But again, I prefer to use the superior backup features of True Image. <IMG SRC=http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/bigglasses.gif>

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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    Jeff,

    I don't believe I'm any more of an MS skeptic or naysayer than Woody is. If their OS's weren't such an ingrained part of everday life in the world today, I don't think the way they do things would bother as many people. They are trying to be all things to all people and it's just not possible. If they were to concentrate on making the OS & browser, that they own the markets on, better, more secure products, and stopped trying to add all the things that third party software already does quite well to the mix, they would have fewer complaints about the way things work (or don't). I've been using TrueImage for over 2 years and have no complaints about the way it does it's job. If they came out with an OS to go along with their imaging program, I'm not sure I'd be one of the first to go out and buy it. You enjoy the Beta process, and that's fine. I like to know what my system is going to do (or not do) and don't want any surprises with my primary machine.

    An IT Engineer friend calls me a "user" in reference to computers and says that's an insult in his circles. It doesn't insult me at all. I can do 10 times what my friend can do with a computer. He can do a lot to a computer, write code and make it launch missles for the Navy and all that good stuff, but I'm not launching any missles any time soon but will be doing my banking and making image backups and other mundane, everyday tasks regularly. If I really was as unhappy with MS products as you seem to think, don't you think I'd have gone to a Linux or Mac OS by now instead of helping folks to understand the MS products they use and offer better third party solutions when they are available ????

    I think what Dave was saying is that he also believes that the MS backup products are not ready for prime time and he's sticking with True Image.
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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    Well, with True Image's track record, are you going to trust TI any more?
    Unfortunately, at this time, TI is the only backup that has the options I want.
    I was just asking whether MSFT might have gotten tis functionalirt right in Vista?

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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    <center>
    <hr>Well, with True Image's track record, are you going to trust TI any more?<hr>
    </center> True Image has never given me any problem at all. It may have a poor record on your track, but most everyone else that has mentioned it on these boards has had nothing but good to say about it. Perhaps you should consider resurfacing or replacing your track.

    I think Dave's answer says it all. He is beta testing Vista and won't be using either the Vista backup utility or Microsoft's other offering, OneCare, I believe. Dave and I don't always agree, but I trust his judgement. <img src=/S/yep.gif border=0 alt=yep width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    Ditto that Doc..... True Image is the best thing since sliced bread! With very few exceptions, True Image has worked wonderfully for the majority of people. I would estimate that the problems most experience are due to "user error"; e.g., doing foolish "tweaks" to their systems, bad software installations, etc. And the small remainder have problems due to hardware incompatibility issues. For me.. True Image is my friend. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    It's saved me lots of time and headaches on more than one occasion. <img src=/S/thumbup.gif border=0 alt=thumbup width=15 height=15>

    Most recently, with a bad upgrade installation of Norton AV from 2003 to 2006. Fortunately, I had the good sense to do a new image before the upgrade and after 2 days of grief with Symantec support told them to pound sand and restored my image. I was then able to remove Norton 2003 and install 2006. I have complete faith in True Image and the integrity of my image backups. And it takes me almost 4 hours to do a complete image of my system (I never do incrementals anymore).
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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    Is that a typo, Doc - does it really take you 4 hours to do an image? Must be a heckuva big hard drive(s) imaging to CDs, huh? I've "only" got 25 gig on this computer so far and it only takes about 20-25 minutes. (I've NEVER done anything but full image, never incremental)

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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    read the TRue Image forum.
    Lots of problems, especially withearly releases of TI 9, and, it seems, there are problems with early release of TI 10.

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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    tI 9 is slow, at least compared with Ghost 10.
    On my system, GHost does a full backup abd verifty in a bit over 2 hours.
    TI takes more than an hour longer.

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    Re: Image Backup (1)

    No typo Al. I've got a 120 GB drive that's got 4 partitions and about 70 GB of data on it.

    Whenever I do an image I update and run all my tools (Adaware, Spybot, SpywareBlaster, Disk Cleanup), dump the Temporary Internet folder and all unwanted cookies, run Norton & Spy Sweeper over the entire system (these take an hour each), defrag with PerfectDisk 6.0 and then do a full image of the system with True Image v7.0 alternating between 2 external 120 GB hard drives. Total time about 6 hours. I do this about once a month and usually do the image overnight so I don't care how long it takes. Price I pay for keeping most of my stuff on the disk.
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