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    Using Word as an HTML editor (2000 SR-1)

    I am currently working on editing the pages on a website, and I was hoping to use Word to do the edits (simply because I'm most comfortable with this program). However, I heard from someone that Word is very, very bad to edit HTML pages in. He didn't go into detail, but he said that it will mess up the code in the document and cause all kinds of errors. Can anyone confirm this for me, or tell me otherwise. The person who told me this typically isn't very reliable, so I thought I'd ask elsewhere. Any advice would be much appreciated! Thanks!

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    Re: Using Word as an HTML editor (2000 SR-1)

    Mist,

    Word 2000 saves html as fairly complex xml. It will display OK in the right browser- I don't know how well otherwise.

    Word 97 saved in a more simple html, but it was less than perfect. I don't think the rendering of tables was very good.

    I'm from the old school- I'd rather enter html through notepad <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>, so treat my comments with a grain of salt.

    If you were converting a whole heap of existing documents, then you MIGHT have a good reason to use Word.

    Otherwise, use a more suitable tool.

    Yes, you can sew needlepoint with boxing gloves- but there's better ways.

    If you have office, you might have Front Page. It's simple to use, and closer to Word than some other products, but there is a learning curve.

    On the other extreme, you could learn html. If your formatting needs are simple, it can be very easy to learn as much as you want..

    There's lots of tools int the middle, but I don't have experience of those.
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    Re: Using Word as an HTML editor (2000 SR-1)

    I would have replied sooner, but I had trouble removing my boxing-gloves ... (grin!).

    I'm a non-expert at HTML. I understand the ideas behind it, just decided not to become an expert.

    Word97 to HTML seems fine for basic brochure-ware, and I use it that way, but really only as a one-way street - converting from a simple Word document towards a correspondingly simple HTML document.


    From time to time I think I am God, and I try loading a saved HTML document (saved from another site) into Word97; I then get a message to the effect "these tables are FAR too compilcated for you and I to understand...", so I give up.


    > use Word to do the edits (simply because I'm most comfortable with this program

    I find this to be a valid argument. In my case I wanted to make use of my existing skills and tools in Word to venture about knee-deep into the ocean of HTML. It has worked well for me so far.


    Now, where did I put my needle-work .....?

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    Re: Using Word as an HTML editor (2000 SR-1)

    Word 97 had a nice clean export feature, and that is what is lacking in Word 2000. There are clean-up utilities out there, and here's why:

    Creating a two paragraph web page that says "Hello, world." on the first line and states the software used on the second line yields this very different source code:
    <table border=1><td>Notepad</td><td>Word</td><td><HTML><HEAD>
    <TITLE>Sample Page</TITLE>
    </HEAD>
    <BODY>


    Hello, world.


    This sample page was created in Notepad.
    </BODY>
    </HTML></td><td><html xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice"
    xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:word"
    xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
    <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document>
    <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 9">
    <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 9">
    <link rel=File-List href="./wordsam/filelist.xml">
    <title>Sample Page</title>
    <style>
    Lounge scripts deleted this large section
    </style>
    </head>
    <body lang=EN-US style='tab-interval:.5in'>
    <div class=Section1>

    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2
    face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><span
    style='mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'>Hello, world.<o></o></span></span></font></p>

    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2
    face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><span
    style='mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'>This sample page was created in Word.<o></o></span></span></font></p>
    </div>
    </body>
    </html></td></table>
    To cut down on the size of the Word code, I deleted the part that contained my document properties and various other settings, from the HEAD portion of the page. This stuff is very useful if you wish to use it in Word to take to other formats. But if its sole purpose in life is to be HTML, the extra stuff makes it slower to download and render, and hard to understand in any other editor.

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    Re: Using Word as an HTML editor (2000 SR-1)

    This may be of interest:

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://office.microsoft.com/assistance/2000/htmlfilter.aspx>Use Office HTML Filter to Create Web Pages that Download Faster</A>

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    Re: Using Word as an HTML editor (2000 SR-1)

    The "Export To... Compact HTML" creates a sort of middle ground, where Word leaves in the detailed style information but takes out the "Office" tags. Depending on your need to control formatting, this could be a good compromise:

    <html>
    <head>
    <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Office HTML Filter 2.0">
    <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
    <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 9">
    <title>Sample Page</title>
    <style>
    Omitted by lounge scripts
    </style>
    </head>

    <body lang=EN-US>
    <div class=Section1>

    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2
    face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Hello, world.</span></font></p>

    <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2
    face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>This sample page was created in Word.</span></font></p>

    </div>
    </body>
    </html>

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    Re: Using Word as an HTML editor (2000 SR-1)

    <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by gwhitfield on 23-Jul-01 06:57.</FONT></P>Change reference to Hyoperlink (by adding [ url][ /url] arounf the reference (without spaces)

    If you are interested, <img src=/S/question.gif border=0 alt=question width=15 height=15> I faced the same dilemma and found a very easy to use HTML editor that does not create all the "stuff" that Word does -- best of all it is free!!! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16> It is available from <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.saunalahti.fi/tonihele>http://www.saunalahti.fi/tonihele</A> and is called "EASYHtml" (Sorry, I do not know how to set up URLs in this situation - maybe someone can help there). HTH

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