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    Re: Non Windows OS

    Colin, there are a number of Linux fans (zealots?) here in The Lounge who will probably jump in here and tell you I'm crazy for this opinion. AND yes, there are a number of Linux distros (as they're called) that are free for the taking, as opposed to paying for another copy of Windows. BUT, to my mind the driving force here is whether you have the TIME or the inclination to go through the "learning curve" of dealing with Linux. My experience with the OS has been brief so far, but I think it WILL take a somewhat considerable period of learning for you to do what you want to do with your new machine.

    The song I continue to sing is that you are well served to stick with what you "know" and are comfortable with, in spite of its warts and the money involved. It is also quite possible that you won't need Vista or maybe even Windows XP to equip this computer for what you want to do. Perhaps, in the interest of "funding" you could get by with a lesser cost copy of Windows 98 SE which is available for far less money than WinXP. I don't know and obviously you're going to have to weigh all the information that this thread yields. Good luck and do keep us posted...

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    Non Windows OS

    I have a small home network with each of us having PC's running WIN XP. I've just built a new one with masses of storage which I plan to put on the network to do three main things

    Automated back-up destination (I run batch progs every night to back up each of the 4 other PC's on the network. This new PC will be the destination)

    Store for all the music files I've encoded. (The PC has a good audio card and is connected to my hi-fi, so I plan to play most of my music through this PC. I have a KVM switch so I will be able to access this PC from my main PC screen, keyboard etc. So it is a very convenient way to drive my music collection)

    Store for all non-regular use files (some photos downloaded progs etc).


    Other than that, this pc will do little other work. I plan to create 5 or 6 partitions across two hard disks.

    Being a cheap Scotsman, I was wondering whether there is an obvious Linux (or other) solution that I could use instead of paying Mr Gates another

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    Re: Non Windows OS

    Hi Big Al

    Thanks for your input.

    I must admit, I feared that what you say might be right.

    BUT, I hadn't thought about using an older Windows version. I have got legit licences (not OEM) for both 98 & ME, and I never considered them. But you're right, for all I'm going to do, they would be fine I suspect.

    There is obviously a security issue, but I believe I can control that. I have a hardware router with firewall, and all my PC's run virus, firewall and adware software all the time. SO i'm sure that ME would be adequate.

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    Re: Non Windows OS

    Given the choices of Win98SE or WinME I think I'd choose Win98SE. You can do a LOT of reading about the problems and nuances of WinME. BUT, just for a well rounded discussion, please wait to see what others have to say here. For a backup storage computer, also to be used for "file repository" I would think that Win98SE would be a fine choice and, as you said, running a decent AV, spyware protection and (free) software firewall (like Zone Alarm?) will give you the security and protection you need.

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    Re: Non Windows OS

    I agree with Al, but as for you using this machine to drive your music, I think 98 is far behind the times. Just something to think about.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Non Windows OS

    Would ME be any better?

    Colin

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    Re: Non Windows OS

    I disagree with the others (in a very friendly way, of course).
    I'm a relative newcomer to Linux (since about Oct 06) and I like it so much I don't even have a Windows partition any more.
    I'm not quite the music enthusiast that you appear to be, Colin, but I've been able to do all sorts of things with openSUSE, the most user-friendly distro I've found. And, of course, I haven't tried them all by any means. If you're comfortable with more than just switching on and know a little about batch scripting or VBA you'll have very little trouble. You don't need to use scripts but because it's easy and convenient, you'll find yourself using a console terminal more and more.
    With the space you're talking about I would definitely give it a try, perhaps alongside W98.

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    Re: Non Windows OS

    Would ME be any better? NO

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Non Windows OS

    I can't resist piping up on this one.

    I still maintain that Linux ain't for everyone. In fact, it's for a small subset of users who are technically proficient and don't mind writing their own scripts, etc. Ease of use may have improved, but the bottom line: Linux is a hobbyist's operating system. If you have the time and desire to learn how to work with it, you may well become one of the converts who tout its values and stability, but whom have also forgotten that it's just not for most people. I don't know what your background or level of technical expertise is, unless you're fairly proficient with the nuts and bolts it's going to frustrate you. Most *nix support is in the form of documentation that is written for someone with an IT degree.

    Don't use ME. Ever. Again. 98 may work, but again is very outdated and not the most stable OS around. For what you're trying to do, I would seriously consider finding a copy of Windows 2000, setting it up with minimal extras, and letting it go. It would be stable, run on older hardware, and would not force you to learn a completely different environment. I'd be willing to bet that you can find a cheap, unused copy of Windows 2000 on eBay or some other location.
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    Re: Non Windows OS

    I'd like to suggest you use a copy of Windows, and leave the drive formatted as FAT32. Setup the machine as desired, and run with it.

    In the future, once you have your machine running, download Geexbox. It's a linux based jukebox. It's runable from CD, and will not touch your OS installation. All it requires, is a PC bootable from the CD-ROM drive.
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    Re: Non Windows OS

    Thanks for everybody's feedback.

    My feeling is that the majority view (of those who expressed one) backs up my own totally un-educated guess that Linux is still too much hassle to bother with.

    I already spend too much time on my PC, and the thought of learning another apparently complex OS does not appeal. The PC world has a long way to go. When I buy a DVD player, a hi-fi unit or a washing machine I get a system that does what it says it does when I push a button on the remote. Until PC's and software vendors concentrate on that, I fear that they will not convert the PC into a universally accepted home device.

    I'll stick with MS. However, I like the idea of windows 2000 and I'll have a look at that and see if I can but a legit copy on ebay. (Is that possible?????).

    Thanks anyway


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    Re: Non Windows OS

    If you can't find Win2000 on eBay, I've got at least five shrink-wrapped copies lying about that never saw use. What I'm saying is... you can find it, if you look around. If you have an IT guy at the office that you're friendly with, that might be a place to start (I recently wound up with an extra copy of 2000 that way).
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    Re: Non Windows OS

    Nice find, Chris! Have you ever tried running this out of a virtual machine? I'm thinking that would be handy if you needed to drop back to the Windows interface and create a playlist, etc. I confess I didn't read too much of the documentation (it's against the man-code to read manuals).
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    Re: Non Windows OS

    There seems to be a few versions of 2000 on e-Bay. I bid on one last night but was outbid. There seem to be plenty of dodgy ones, so I'm not quite so sure how to identify what's good and what's not. Some are obvious, some are not.

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    Re: Non Windows OS

    Ubuntu Linux may be better for you. I've not had direct experience with it, but I hear it's less off a hassle because they include less stuff. Such as 1 -GUI, one office suite, one media player, etc. Not the 4 or 5 different programs that the other distributions put out there.

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