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    Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')

    I cannot confirm this, e.g., if it is "official" from Microsoft but, this item was spotted on a Vista newsgroup regarding dual boot setup:

    "The license for the qualifying OS that is used as the basis for the upgrade
    to Vista is subsumed into the Vista license. So you cannot dual boot Vista
    upgraded from XP and the XP it was upgraded from. You need two XP licenses
    for that. The upgrade version of Vista is cheaper because it has to have an
    underlying OS - you can't have both. If you want both then get a full
    version of Vista. This was also the case when upgrading from Win98 to XP.
    The Win98 license gets tied into the XP license."

    Can someone, HEY DAVE!!, confirm this disturbing propect? IF it is true, this will put a serious damper on my plans. <IMG SRC=http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/sad02.gif>

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    Re: Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')

    I have found the following at Microsoft License terms for Vista.

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    13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible
    for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software
    you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.
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    But the same wording is also listed in older versions of Windows.

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    Re: Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')

    Dave,

    Okay...... so Microsoft says you may not use your upgraded O/S any longer after it has been upgraded to the new version . . . legally. What is not revealed, and expectedly so, is whether or not you can use it in a dual-boot situation. My main concern is that there may potentially be some apps which cannot run on Vista that I have been using on XP and are somewhat necessary. I recently ran the latest "Vista Upgrade Advisor" and the is only one application that was flagged which was not compatible; KAV, which is of no consequence because there will be an update for Vista released quite soon I am sure. How reliable the scan results are is of course the big question. hehe My plan, as you know, is/was to by the upgrade version $$$$ and then use True Image to restore my current XP system to another partition, thus giving me the best of both worlds until such time as any compatibility issues; both hardware and software are resolved. After that, I would uninstall XP and run only Vista.

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    Re: Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')

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    <hr>My plan, as you know, is/was to by the upgrade version $$$$ and then use True Image to restore my current XP system to another partition, thus giving me the best of both worlds until such time as any compatibility issues; both hardware and software are resolved. After that, I would uninstall XP and run only Vista.<hr>
    </center>Since you won't actually be using the "software", but an image of it, then "technically" you won't be violating any rules (MS doesn't make laws, just rules). <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> But I would suspect that your plan will work and you would be able to boot to either OS without problems. Legally speaking, you would be violating the EULA that you agreed to when you upgraded the old installation to Vista. You also might have some problems/issues getting further upgrades for the XP installation without resorting to subterfuge to get them.
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    Re: Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')

    I agree with Doc. Also this wording was mainly for you NOT to take your CD of the software and put on another machine.

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    Re: Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')

    I also agree with Doc and Dave. Take theoretical situation: on the computer running Windows XP one installs Windows Vista using Microsoft Virtual PC. How is it possible not to use XP anymore? In spite of this, both OS running on the same computer are kind of "virtual machines"...

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    Re: Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')

    Admitting I haven't yet searched The Lounge or the web for this question, the thing that nags at me is running an "upgrade" installer CD on a clean hard drive. In the past, one could buy an upgrade version, legally, because you already own the previous version. In the installation process, the new OS would ask for the disk (CD or floppy) of the previous version in order to prove that you're a legal owner of the old version. I haven't gotten ready to buy Vista yet, so I don't know if this scenario is possible. If it is, that would seem to alleviate Pilgrim's doubts.

    If it's NOT permitted, that would be a killer for someone whose hard drive crashes, requiring a re-installation of Vista. Would one have to first re-install the previous OS? Jeez, I hope not...

    Edited to add: I stand corrected. In this thread, <post:=622,453>post 622,453</post:>, Rebel pointed us to this article: Microsoft Updates Windows Vista Basic User Interface

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    Re: Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')


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    Re: Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')

    George Ou at ZDnet has a rather disturbing blog today citing an Arstechnica article that says you cannot do a clean install with an upgrade version of Vista. Apparently, the upgrade compliance check is for an installed qualifying version of Windows XP or 2000, and not simply for the installation CD.

    If correct, this strikes me as quite a show stopper.

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    Re: Dual booting Vista and XP (Vista 'Gold')

    Sorry, but I ain't Ed Bott...... but I can answer your question. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    You CAN do a clean install with "Ultimate" and "Business" versions of Vista. You cannot do this with any of the other versions.

    See here: Buy or Upgrade and Upgrade Paths

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