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    TrueImage 'Slices'

    Hey folks, I've got what may be an unusual question. I don't know how long this has been around and how come I've never noticed it! I'm running Build 4871 although I've downloaded the latest but haven't yet installed it. As you've heard from me before, I have two external USB drives to which I make backup images on a weekly basis. The screenshot shows an example of what those two drives look like. This evening after doing my regular imaging, I happened to run Windows Explorer and noticed in the LEFT pane of the 160 gig drive that all the files I've marked in the right pane were shown in the LEFT pane with the "plus" symbol to the left of the filenames. If I clicked on the plus symbol, it would drill down to something called a "Slice something or other." I wish now that I had hit the print screen key! If I continued drilling down, I could go all the way to folders and FILES in each of the backup images, WITHOUT mounting the image!

    As I usually do after an imaging session, I booted the machine and this whole scenario has disappeared. Has anyone seen such a thing?
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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    Al,

    You mean like this?
    I have one full image backup and then I do a daily differential backup.
    I get one slice for each Differential backup in the folder.

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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    YES, it looked like that! I only do full image backups and have never done differential/incremental, so that can't have been the cause. I don't know if TI just belched on me or something else, especially in light of the fact that the slices disappeared after a reboot. On your incrementals, can you drill down into those slices and see individual files?

    Anyway, you can bet the next time I run a backup, I'll be watching for this to see if it happens again.

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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    > On your incrementals, can you drill down into those slices and see individual files?

    I had to double click one of the files in the right pane before I could see the slices on the left. I can then drill down into the individual slices.

    I don't think it would make any difference, but these are Differential backups, not Incremental.

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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    Thanks, Stuart. I've been looking in the TI Forum and searching on the word "slice" and it seems others have a question as mine or similar to. Personally, I think Acronis may have accidently done something in the latest rounds of TI 10. I also looked in the user manual and the only place the word slice shows up is in comments about differential/incremental backups.

    I just tried your double-click on the filename in the right pane for my last backup and sure enuf, it created a slice in the left pane. That slice can be drilled all the way down to individual files and seems to negate the need for mounting an image. I'll just have to see.

    One of the comments on their forum said this creation of slices could have something to do with system restore. Yeah, sure, duh! I have system restore turned off and always have. This guy was asking not only why the slices are there since he only does full images, but why are the slice SIZES increasing.

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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    Al,
    This is strictly a guess on my part, but I think it may have something to do with the ability to only restore PART of a full back up image. For instance, I will usually image three of the partitions on my HD: C:,D: & F:.all in one back up pass. This will create one back up .tib file for the entire image.
    Yet I can still restore only ONE of the partitions, if I want to do only that. So my image will be for the three partitions and I can just restore the D: drive for example. It will allow TI to select just the D drive portion of the image and restore it.
    I don't think ( but I haven't tried it ) that it will allow you to just select one file on the list and restore it directly from the slice.
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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    Au contraire monsieur, I'm afraid to say. Picking up on what Stuart said, I just tried the theory. I double clicked the recent full image in the right pane (attachment) and it opened a "slice" in the left pane. I drilled down to an arbitrary directory and Ctrl-selected a few files. The screenshot has been cropped for Lounge size. I then dragged those files from the slice to a temp folder on my hard drive. Works like a charm. So much for mounting an image to get files from it.
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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    Al,
    Good to know this.
    As I said, "I hadn't tried this" but I DO think that's what the Slices thing is all about. <img src=/S/hmmn.gif border=0 alt=hmmn width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/scratch.gif border=0 alt=scratch width=25 height=29>
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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    Since we're all guessing, here's my suggestion.

    Each Slice represents a single backup. Since you do full backups you get one slice for each. If you have Incremental or Differential backups in the same folder then each of these will also appear as an extra Slice. So you get one slice per Full Backup and I get an additional slice for each Differential backup I have in the same folder.

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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    But I guess the question, on the bottom line, is WHY? This topic of "slices" is not something that's highlighted in the TI documentation except where it relates to differential or incremental backups. Seems like something they've snuck in on us and it's also something that I would never have noticed, had it not popped up on my Windows Explorer like that. It has never happened to me before.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't (necessarily) think it's something bad, as it doesn't seem to have anything but GOOD impact for me. I'm just wondering how it crept in under the radar, so to speak!

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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    I'm guessing that you are talking about TI 10.

    The description in this thread seems to indicate that TI 10 is trying to improve by changing the archive format from that of TI 9,

    "slice" is used in the TI 10 user's guide.

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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    You don't have to "guess" if you see my <post#=634,664>post 634,664</post#>.

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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    Al,
    There is a mention of "slices" in the Ver 10 users guide starting on page 68. Exploring backup archives.
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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    I don't want to beat a dead horse here, Bob, but that's about what I told Howard, just above. The user guide only uses the word "slice" in reference to differential or incremental backups, NOT full images. Don't get me wrong, as I've been trying to point out in all of these posts, it isn't necessarily a problem, just something that has snuck up under the radar.

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    Re: TrueImage 'Slices'

    OK, OK. <img src=/S/notmyfault.gif border=0 alt=notmyfault width=15 height=15>
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