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    Print color vs Monitor color

    If this isn't the correct forum, I apologize and expect this post will be moved to the appropriate forum. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    I'm wanting to know if there is a way to at least get the colors that are printed to be the same or at least close to what I see on my Monitor. I am assuming that my Monitor is displaying the colors correctly(SamSung SyncMaster 940BF) and my printer (Epson Stylus Photo R200) is off. I do have the latest drivers for the printer. It makes no difference whether I am printing in Vista or XP.

    For example, reds are pinkish and yellows are also pinkish, but black and white are fine. I get the same results using different media too, e.g., bright white paper, photo stock or printable CD/DVD media. I've tried different settings in the printer driver, e.g., photo, text and photo, etc., but there is no change. For years I have been aware of the "Color Management" section in the Video drivers but don't know anything about them but still wonder if they are where I should make any changes or perhaps I should be looking at the video card drivers. My video card is an EVGA GeForce 7600 GT, also with the latest Nvidia drivers. Something has obviously changed, but what I haven't a clue since this issue has just recently started.

    Can someone hopefully at least put me on the right track to correct this problem?

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    Color management is a messy problem. In brief, digital files store numeric references that different devices interpret according to their own concept of what, say, "red" means. Monitors aren't necessarily accurate, and CRTs will look different cold and warmed up.

    But I digress. Does this article help? Understanding Printer Colour Management

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    My quick "guess" is that you've got a hardware problem, Jeff, not drivers, etc. My experience with Epson stopped with the MX-80 (giggle) but with HP and Lexmark I've had problems very similar to what you describe (see Hardware Forum recently). So far, it's always been ink: empty, dried up or defective cartridge. Most recently, other than black, "pinkish" was all I got. I guess you could try the Color Management by making an exaggerated adjustment to see if it changes the pink, then set it back where it was. Good luck and let us know what you conclude. Meanwhile, I'm gonna move the thread to Hardware since Pix Place has such a short shelf-life. If it turns out to be software..... we're flexible.

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    Be careful, you are going to be told to get a MAC as I hear a lot of bragging about how it is so much better in the color management. BUT they forget to tell you, that you need special hardware and software and this stuff only works with the Pro versions of the of Adobe Photoshop.
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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    Over the years Ive had Lexmark and Epsom printers and all have suffered similar colour problems at some time and in my case it always was cartridge to blame. And using manufacturers recommended own brand is not always a guarantee of trouble free colour...but changing to a new ink cartridge usually solved the problem. As indicated they seem to dry out or go bad for no apparent reason.

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    Thanks for all the replies. It just may be that one or more ink cartridges have gone "sour" and thus the disparity in colors view and colors printed. I tried a few different settings in the printer driver and no change. So, I guess changing out some/all of the ink cartridges is the next logical step.

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    The chap who was giving the course I went on a week or two back said that LCD monitors were only just becoming available that gave good (photo-quality) colour, and most design studios still used hefty CRTs. And matching screen colour to printer colour for photographs was a nightmare, as Jefferson says. Expect to pay a few thousand dollars for each device to get adequate results on large paper (at least A3).

    He doesn't bother, and uses the website of a firm which has fast and large printers costing tens of thousands of pounds, and sends him prints in a couple of days...

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    John,

    That's all well and good, but what that chap said is irrelevant to my situation. I'm not a professional photographer nor some expert computer designer so it wouldn't make a bit of difference to me if I was using a CRT or LCD monitor or my printer was a cheap $50 Lexmark or a $5000 HP. My issue is that there was a time, not too long ago that what got printed DID look very close to what I saw on my screen. I simply want to get things back to the way they were and I don't need no $10,000 in hardware. <IMG SRC=http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/rofl6.gif> But thanks for the input nonetheless. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    Jeff,

    I have to jump on the bandwagon that says: my similar problem with pink or poor printing, turned out to be ink cartridge or ink "nozzle" problems.

    Once, changing the cartridge cleared things up and in another, GENTLY cleaning the cartridge AND the receptacle that the cartridge sits in restored proper printing.
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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    Jeff

    Just trying to get you to feel envious of what's available! <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    I must admit that I didn't check the specs on YOUR printer when I read your initial post, so I didn't realize it was one of 'em that has MULTIPLE color ink cartridges. That's a bummer, if you suspect a cartridge problem. I don't know what the troubleshooting recommends. In my experiences with either HP or Lexmark, the model printers I've had contained only TWO cartridges - black and color. Good luck with it and keep us posted with what you come up with.

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    Al,

    That's one of the major reasons I will not buy a HP printer..... a full set of ink cartridges can cost as much as the printer itself. Ink replacement cartridges for my cheap but more than adequate Epson R200 only cost $4.95 each through Abacus 24/7 or a full set for a mere $24.95. At those prices, even "I" can afford to waste a cartridge or two. <IMG SRC=http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/BigThumbUp.gif>

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    <hr>John quipped:
    Just trying to get you to feel envious of what's available!<hr>
    <IMG SRC=http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/trustme.gif> Not a shred of envy resides in my withering body when I see the prices for those high-end Monitors and/or Printers. When I see them listed I actually break out laughing at both the prices and at the thought of someone actually spending that kind of money for them. I can build several super-PCs for what those things cost.

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    > That's one of the major reasons I will not buy a HP printer..... a full set of ink cartridges can cost as much as the printer itself.

    A recent review of ink prices in PC Pro showed that newer HP inkjet printers, which have separate cartridges for each colour, were the lowest cost per page.

    I guess if you want really good quality printing you could always make house room for one of these.

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    Re: Print color vs Monitor color

    Stuart,

    Oh really? Show me a HP cartridge that costs less than $5 and I might believe that. <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> You can buy most Canon and Epson cartridges for $5 or less these days. The problem is that the "print head" in HP printers is incorporated into each individual ink cartridge and thus the much higher price. This fact also means it is prohibitive for 3rd-party ink cartridge suppliers/manufacturers to sell them which means you are forced to buy HP's "genuine" cartridges..... or you could buy refill kits if available and reuse them. I've been that route and don't want to do it again unless absolutely necessary. I am NOT disparaging the quality of HP printers...... just the outrageous cost of buying the ink after the sale. It's always been that way and unless HP changes the location of the print head, it isn't likely going to change things from how they currently exist. Of course, I won't go into how bloated and invasive HP drivers are compared to Epson or Canon, which is another topic. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>

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