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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    I don't see an attachment. Please remember that the maximum size is 100 KB (zip the document if necessary) and that you shouldn't preview the message after specifying the attachment.

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    I see that you edited your post, but there's still no attachment. <img src=/S/scratch.gif border=0 alt=scratch width=25 height=29>

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    Outline anomaly (2003)

    Hello,

    I am working on an outline based on styles, where level I is Heading 1, level II is Heading 2, etc. (see attached).

    Every now and then, when I create a new level I, it renames that level's number to "I," even if it should be IV, V, VI, etc. I then have to put my cursor to the beginning of that level and (i) press tab (which causes everything in the outline to become indented); and (ii) press cntrl + Z twice (the first time, nothing happens; the second time, the indents go away and the new level gets the appropriate number continuing from the previous level).

    This does not happen all of the time, and in fact, the attached document works just fine for those who want to replicate it. I can't figure out when this happens and when it doesn't, but I know for sure that this happens to me about 5 times a day. Sometimes, it will happen if I put my cursor at the end of a level 1 portion of the outline, and press spacebar. The numbering of that level will change back to "I" and then I have to put my cursor at the beginning of the line, press tab and cntrl Z twice to get the correct number of that level to reappear.

    Does anybody know what is going on??

    Sincerely,

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    Oops . . . it should be there now.

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    Does it help if you clear the "Automatically update document styles" check box in Tools | Templates and Add-Ins...?

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    It looks like the problem continues to occur!

    Sincerely, JMT

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    Have you tried editing the document in Outline view? That usually helps to get consistent results when working with outline numbered heading styles.

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    Hi JMT,

    I had the same problem with your document that you described. What I usually do when faced with inappropriate numbering is:

    1. Check to make sure all levels of the numbering are attached to the same listtemplate. This seemed to be true.
    2. Make sure the listtemplates are not corrupted by resetting them all, then opening the document.

    This didn't work. So I recreated the numbering associated with the styles.

    With the document open, I reset the listtemplate, which reset the look of all the numbers associated with the Heading styles in the document. I edited Heading 1 style and accessed the numbering, changing each level to look like your original document. For good measure, I removed the tabs so your document default tabs wouldn't have anything to compete with.

    I saved it as a new document, and have attached it. I've added a couple of headings at the bottom, saved, closed, opened, added more, and didn't seem to have any instability.

    You might try resetting all your listtemplates before opening this document. Here's how:

    In a blank document, click Format > Bullets and Numbering...
    Click the "Outline Numbered" tab
    Click one of the outline formats in the gallery
    Click the reset button in the lower left of the dialog box (The button will be greyed out if the format doesn't need resetting)
    Repeat for each of the outline formats

    Now open the document and see if all's well. [If there was a "fingers crossed" smilie, I'd put it here!]

    HTH,
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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    > If there was a "fingers crossed" smilie, I'd put it here!

    We do have one: <img src=/S/crossfingers.gif border=0 alt=crossfingers width=17 height=16> (<!t>[crossfingers]<!/t>)

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    > [If there was a "fingers crossed" smilie, I'd put it here!]

    <!t>[crossfingers]<!/t> gives <img src=/S/crossfingers.gif border=0 alt=crossfingers width=17 height=16>

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    Hey, I looked! Obviously not very well, but I looked...

    And doesn't <img src=/S/crossfingers.gif border=0 alt=crossfingers width=17 height=16> look more like <!t>[tragic door slamming accident]<!/t>?

    K

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    Well, if you know of or can design a better <!t>[crossfingers]<!/t> smilie... <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    ***Edited to include edited smilie***

    Ooo, a challenge! I can't resist. May take me a while, but I'm up for it. <img src=/S/crossfingers.gif border=0 alt=crossfingers width=17 height=16> I hope.

    ***
    I've uploaded the smilie. I don't know. It looks pretty good to me, but is it really any better than the one already there...?
    ***

    Kim <img src=/S/hairout.gif border=0 alt=hairout width=31 height=23>
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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    Looks good to me, thanks! I'll ask our Gifmeister Leif what he thinks of it.

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    Re: Outline anomaly (2003)

    We do appreciate your effort, but apparently, the picture is slightly ambiguous - someone thought it was an Easter Bunny <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
    So we'll keep the <tragic door slamming accident> version for now.

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