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    GIF Animation Software

    I hardly ever do animations and even then it's usually to modify one that I already have. So, ever since I've been a Paint Shop Pro user, I've used their Animation Shop (3.11) to do my little playing around. My question has to do with transparency. Someone sent me this little devil in an email and I would like to make the white background transparent. Can't figure out how to do it with Animation Shop. There are tick boxes in the animation properties for it, it goes through the motions of re-rendering and saving the file, but then it isn't transparent. Anyone know how to do it.

    As an alternative, a recommendation for a free or low priced alternative would be good as well. Yes, I am Googling but just because you see 'em doesn't necessarily mean they do the job...

    PS I know I could do the above by exporting all the frames to PSP and changing them, one frame at a time, but boy, so many frames.
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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    So you like the little bug I sent you? <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    CoffeeCup Gif Animator will give you this...
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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    The work for frame by frame or layer by layer is minimal in Photoshop Elements . Select each layer in turn and one click in the image's white background with the magic eraser tool does the job. Here is what results. There may be easier ways.

    Hope this works, I did not check it out.

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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Hey Paul

    Looks good but there are timing to the frames, can you adjust the frame settings in Photoshop Elements?
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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Thanks to you and Paul for the suggestions. I'll give the CoffeeCup product a trial run since I switched to their HTML editor about a year ago and the price ain't bad.

    A little fallout of the image I chose as my example to ask this question. On my Lounge skin (Binary) with its greyish background, there are almost NO legs visible on your version of the bug. If I change skin to one of a lighter color, the bug looks fine. I guess it's one of those things one has to consider when dealing with transparency.

    Thanks again fellas. I had tried a couple of other products earlier today that didn't seem to work either, so I'll give CoffeeCup's product a go right now.

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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    You took the words our of my mouth but as I use Fireworks, I thought it best not to comment on that product. However, coming from the animation aspect, I zoomed in to about 800% so that I could capture any "trapped" white pixels and individually made them transparent. Although the critter's body is only about 8 pixels wide in parts, a rogue white pixel or two can ruin the end effect, this is reminiscent of <!profile=BerylM>BerylM<!/profile> and her kitty avitar that got fleas and we spent hours cleaning the graphic up.

    Take heed of my comment in the post further up about frame timings as the majority of the frames are set at 8/1000 but the critter halts ever so often and the frame delay is set to 100/1000 or 1/10 of a second which really assists the effect of randon tic taccing of an insect/cockroach
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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Jerry,
    I am not aware of any way to have Photoshop Elements set different time delays between frames. Hence my editing resulted in a completely peripatetic bug - at times that's how I feel my activities proceed.

    When I did the edit in PE I set the parameters for the magic eraser to zero tolerance (erase only the exact color clicked on) and non continuous so that even pixels completley enclosed by other color values will be made transparent.

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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Thanks for that , I don't have that option <img src=/S/cool.gif border=0 alt=cool width=15 height=15>

    As for frame times, I was intrigued so I found this little tutorial.......it may be useful

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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Yes, that link pretty much describes how I do animations in PE (an earlier version, however) . I will have to look at the full Photoshop version and see if it has more frame control. I will not be surprised if that feature is lacking as animation is only tangent to its designed capabilities.

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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Jerry,
    Just for completeness as this comment will not satisfy Al's request for free or low cost software:

    The answer about controlling inter frame times for GIF animations in Photoshop CS is YES and NO. Photoshop cannot do it, but Adobe's Image Ready (AIR), which is an elementary bitmap graphics editor that ships with Photoshop, can control those times. When editing the gif file in Photoshop one click on a tool button puts you in AIR and bingo, a film strip is displayed with all of the interframe times shown and editable.

    If I get some time, I may give it a go.

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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Hey Leif, a favor please? I downloaded a trial copy of the Coffee Cup product and am still not having any luck. I'm hoping it's because it's a trial copy and maybe registering it will yield a better result. So, I tried a different existing animated GIF I have on my hard drive and didn't fare any better than I did with the little bug. Would you mind grabbing this file and re-saving it with the Coffee Cup animator (under a different file name) to see if you get a transparent result, please? When I do it, I don't get a transparent result, but I DO get the little doodad in the upper left corner that says it's been done with a trial copy of the program. I don't mind paying for the software, but I don't know why the <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> I'm not seeing transparency.
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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Hi Al, I'm not sure what you are asking. The file already has a transparent background as far as I can see...
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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Yep, it does. That's why I tried it. So, having opened the file, now SAVE AS and give the file a new name. THEN see if that new file is transparent.

    This is what happens to me with the "trial" version. (Note the dark background - not transparent) BTW, I made a post with the question in their forum three days ago and have yet to get an answer - does transparency work in the trial download?

    Edited to add: I should have also said that the colors are pretty washed out and crappy looking, compared to the "original" one I posted just above!
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    Re: GIF Animation Software

    Attached is 'new' version after a simple Save As. No difference that I can see.
    If I get time, I'll try downloading the free trial onto a different PC later and see what I get, otherwise, you may have to wait for the official response.
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