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    Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    I need some information, and fast. I am trying to decide between buying a stand-alone Firewall or a Suite of programs that include scanning in and out bound email.

    I removed the trial version of BitDefender because I found it seriously slowed down my computer. Websites loaded so slowly I could have made a cup of coffee while waiting. My boot-up process was slower too, using Comcast HiSpeed Internet Sevice, was very fast prior to it's usage. It was removed last Saturday, now my computer is totally unprotected

    I need a comparison between the two plus some suggestions as to which one I should spend my money on. I've been searching on the web at sites that make comparisons, I've seen so many, that I decided to come to the best place to get expert advice.

    Please give me your opinions..
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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    <hr>...trying to decide between buying a stand-alone Firewall or a Suite of programs <hr>
    Mebbe I don't understand what you're after, but why do you need to BUY anything when Zone Alarm has a free firewall and there are products like Avast (also free) for virus checking?

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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    When you turn off a third-party firewall, the built-in Windows firewall should automatically be activated. Although it is much less shiny than third-party firewalls, it does an adequate job, and it is very unobtrusive. The Windows XP version only monitors inbound traffic (but that shouldn't be a problem if you have good protection against viruses and spyware), the Windows Vista version also monitors outbound traffic.

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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    Please, let me try and explain what I'm after. I think that buying a program or a tool, gives me more options plus support. Free is fine, but will it provide all the protection the purchased one will provide? I think not. I prefer not to have too many separate programs that need updating, I have too many as it is. If I can find freeware that has most of the options and tools, I have no objection to using free.

    Does the free Zone Alarm have in and outbout email checking?This is most important to me. Will it keep out ALL the bad guys without my always intervening? How large is it's footprint? Thank you for the suggestion, I will visit the website and check it out.

    Avast is also a fine suggestion and I have no objection to using it, if I decide to go the stand alone route.
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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    Since BitDefender was removed, I see no evidence of the Windows firewall running, perhaps it's not activated, how do you do that? It will do as a port in a storm, until I can make other arrangements.

    With the other third-party tools you always knew if the firewall was working. I've found very few Windows tools that were worth the paper it was written on. Substandard is not for me and my one and only computer.

    I thank you for your input.
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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    In Windows XP, you can check which firewall is active (if any) in the Security Center control panel. I assume that Windows Vista has something similar.

    If the built-in Windows firewall is activated, it will always be on.

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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    Gloria,

    I'm with BigAl on this. I went the route of a suite with Norton Systemworks but finally wised up and now using Zone Alarm Free ( it does protect both incoming and outgoing ) and Avast AV, also free.

    You can check if Windows firewall is running by going to Control Panel>Security Settings and it will show your Windows settings.
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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    Do you still run NOD32? Does it scan email? If so, then you won't need that to be a feature of your firewall. In fact, duplicating that could cause some contention or conflict among programs.

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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    OK, I shall probably be shot to pieces here. I have Norton Antivirus with the Firewall. I have had one problem with it ever when it corrupted but I was able to fix it with help from the Lounge giving a link to the Norton Site.

    I have had one malware in over 3 years of use and that was after I installed MSN Instant Messaging for the girls a month or so back. It is easily configurable and I have realised the firewall was still in learning mode. The cost was reasonable and I get updates automatically.

    My life is too busy to worry about getting the next update and although the other guys are happy with the various free flavours, I have a tendency to err on the side of caution. I blanch sometimes when I see Loungers who have about 6 freeware AV applications and an extra Firewall as back up.....why? Don't they trust the original?

    They are happy with their choice, I just go for the easy option and pay a few quid. I 10 years of computing I can happily say I have had just two viruses.
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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    Personally, I've been happy with Outpost Firewall Free for a long time. It works unobtrusively and monitors BOTH inbound and outbound traffic. It also allows you (or it) to set rules for individual applications on your computer, which try to communicate over the internet. Few (free or commercial) firewalls offer this feature.

    I swaped to the Pro version, but I'm sorely tempted to revert to the freebie. The former wants to create some rule or other every time an application decides to scratch itself! The only problems I've had is allowing file shares with a 98SE computer. In this case, we both need to "drop" our firewalls to enable communication over the LAN. Otherwise, I'd recommend it as the ideal standalone choice.

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    P.S. - I also don't go on those overblown, overbloated security suites. A handful of small, robust standalones (free at that) will offer admirable (and less buggy) protection.

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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    As long as I've used Windows XP, I had no idea that Security Center was listed in the Control Panel. Thank you for pointing me to it's location. I have turned Windows Firewall on temporarily, until I can select a more powerful program.
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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    I agree with BigAl too, and have turned Windows Firewall on. Zone Alarm free will be installed today and then I will turn Windows Firewall off. Avast AnitVirus will also be installed.

    I received Webroot's Spy Sweeper as a gift, and will install it. Do you have an opinion about Spy Sweeper?

    Thanks Bob, your opinion counts highly with me.
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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    NOD32 was removed a couple of weeks ago when I installed BitDefender. Yes, it did scan both in and outbound mail. I understand that Zone Alarm (free) will also scan mail in both directions.

    Than you so much for responding.
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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    Your opinion counts as well as anyone else's. The only thing is that I blanch when the name Norton or Symantic is mentioned. I swore years ago that no product that carries either of those names will ever again find it's way onto my computer ever again. Suggest anything else and it will be considered, but Norton is on my private black list.
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    Re: Firewall Stand alone, Or Suites

    At last, a different opinion. I've never heard of Outpost, but I will certainly take a very good look at it and compare it's features with Zone Alarm free.
    Your opinion was very well put and I thank you for pointing me to Outpost Firewall Free.
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