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    Wide Screen Upgrade?

    I just got a 22" wide screen... a Samsung 226BW.

    And I'm not sure yet if I like what I did.

    I love the size; clarity is wonderful; what I'm, having problems with is the aspect and sizing. For instance:

    I have a round clock on my desktop. But now it looks a bit squashed at 1024x768. I can get it to look perfectly round at the 1680x1050 apparently, but then I'd need a magnifying glass.

    Isn't there a way to get the same "aspect" that I had at 1024x768 at whatever size SamSung wants me to have now?

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Your monitor has a native resolution of 1680 x 1050. Its aspect ratio (width / height) is 8:5 or 1.6.
    Traditional monitors have an aspect ratio of 4:3 or 1.33. If you use a resolution with an aspect ratio of 4:3, such as 1024 x 768, on your wide screen monitor, it will be distorted since the image has to be stretched horizontally.
    Does your video card offer another resolution with an aspect ratio of 8:5, for example 1280 x 800 or 1024 x 600? That wouldn't cause distortion, and you wouldn't need a magnifying glass.

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Surely there should be an upgrade to your "round clock" software to cater for wide-screen monitor resolution? The 4x3 screen aspect ratio has not been the only possibility for quite some time now!

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    That's not the point, John. As Chuck mentions, the clock looks OK in the screen's native resolution of 1680 x 1050 (8:5 aspect ratio), but it does *not* in 1024 x 768 (4:3 aspect ratio). This is because the 1024 x 768 logical pixels that the video card provides are stretched out to fill the 1680 x 1050 physical pixels of the monitor. This causes distortion.

    In the past, some (many? all?) video cards for laptops often used only part of the screen when set to a lower resolution than the screen's native resolution, leaving a black border around the image. But I haven't seen this on desktop PCs.

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Upgrading is rarely a single step process. This applies to more than computer stuff in my experience. So the shoot-from-the-hip answer is now that you have upgraded your display you need to upgrade your clock, and there are many to choose from.

    The bigger question is why you choose to use a significantly lower resolution on your high resolution display. Your comments suggest the answer may be your current visual acuity. If that's the case, and if you are indeed happy with the screen information content XGA provides , then you may have the wrong display for your needs. When you buy displays you pay for information content (pixels) and glass (diagonal). The same number of pixels in a large format costs more than in a small format. In your case you paid for both when you only had to pay for a glass size big enough to get larger pixels that make the screen easily readable. Your current pixel pitch is 0.282 mm and that may be too fine for your needs. On the other hand, you now have a fine display in the HDTV format (16:10) with fast pixel response and high contrast - sounds like a dynamite TV monitor

    For text you can always increase the font size and that should manage that problem for many applications. For fixed format applications like your clock I think they just have to be upgraded.

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Yes, sorry, I had misread under what conditions Chuck got the distorted clock.

    Perhaps I should have suggested that there are cheaper ways to tell the time than to use a PC, whatever screen and resolution are available?!

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Or he can use an on screen DIGITAL display for his clock watching? <img src=/S/eyeout.gif border=0 alt=eyeout width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    John:

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    Then what would I have to do with my time?

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Hans:

    You are correct...

    1280 x 768 seems to be the one...

    I appreciate the assist.

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Paul/Bob/Hans/John:

    Paul, you're correct that visual acuity was and is a consideration. So the max resolutions available (1680x1050) will most probably see little use on my watch. But I do benefit, it seems, from the sharpness and response. As I was having minor issues with my prior 19" LCD, and that this monitor was available for about $225, I think I'm going to be OK. And the layout and extra space is nice.

    Resolution picks have been a bit of a mystery however. I was using the monitor in analog, and Hans, the 1280 x 800 you had recommended seemed to work fine. I had tried the digital, but had seemed to find resolution / size issues, so I back-burnered that. Then I read that the quality was supposed to be a good deal better in digital, so I switched cords, and took a look.

    It is noticeably sharper and quicker, and I think the color is truer as well. But you know what? The same resolutions aren't offered digitally as were in analog!

    The 1280 x 800 I was using ain't there. I dunno why that would be? The closest I can come is 1280 x 960, and then I'm back to the perspective and distortion that started this post. I can go to the native higher resolutions, but then the vision issues pop up.

    But you know what? I tried the 1024 x 768 that had been my res on the 19" that hadn't worked with the analog connection, and it seems to be fine using the digital!

    ??

    One of the most easily noticeable item is the IE icon, as it is (supposed to be) round. In analog, it was more elongated horizontally at the lower resolution, but in digital it seems to be fine.

    How come? NOW I'm tempted to look at a better card than the NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500, 'cause I'm still getting a certain amount of "white screen" while programs like Outlook load. Would a faster/more memory ( and of course more costly) help that some, or not enough to warrant? I don't play games or that stuff, so that's not a consideration.

    Anyway, at least at this point it seems to be working OK, and that is the point.

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Chuck

    It is still the case that LCD screens, unlike the CRT screens of old, only look their best in their native resolution, which for 20" and 22" wide-screens is usually 1680x1050. (Your screen may be perverse, and differ!)

    You can tweak a number of the other desktop settings like text size, icon spacing and so on, to make what is displayed better for olde eyes - or (like me!) just move the screen closer to your face! (My current 20" widescreen is about 18" away from my nose).
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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    John:

    Yea, I'm at about 18" as well... and I think I'm still gonna have to tweak the settings if I go to that res...

    Ah me...

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Chuck,

    You should give the accessibility options a try and see if you find a condition you like.
    To try them out (in XP) click on the following:
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    You would still have to individually control the font size in the applications you run. I have found that some of the seniors I tutor who have vision issues find this approach helpful.

    Paul

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Paul:

    Even at 56, I shy away from seeing myself as "senior"... :-)

    But you may have an idea there...

    Since optimal viewing is a bit extreme, maybe what I should do is set it there, and then just adjust items individually... Once I get them right, I can save the them and be off and running...

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    Re: Wide Screen Upgrade?

    Chuck,

    "I shy away from seeing myself as "senior""
    Yeah, I know what you mean and I did not intend to imply you were! I had no idea of your position along life's time line. I simply included that information as the basis of how I know about that utility and that some students at the facility where I teach (all seniors) found it useful. By the way, not all who liked the larger font schemes had vision problems, they simply preferred them.

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