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    3GB memory (Vista Ultimate or home Premium)

    Since I posted last comment on the upgrade to 3GB of memory that Vista refuses to recognize, I have pursued the problem with Microsoft. I can report that the edit to the boot configuration is: "BCDEdit /set PAE ForceEnable" without the quotes and that in order to do that you need to right click on the command prompt and click " run as administrator" even if you are in an administrator's profile. I have not gotten a resolution to the problem but I can report that having ULTIMATE doesn't help. I reformatted my drive and put Vista Home Premium back in and then upgraded to ULTIMATE. At first I could not even install Home Premium in spite of the fact that I had done so previous. I even re-installed XP Home on a Fat32 format like it was when I put it in before. When I had Home premium in the first time it wouldn't upgrade and I thought that I didn't have enough drive space and that is why I started from scratch, to get a bare bones system. The Vista DVD wouldn't boot the drive. It didn't work until I removed the third stick of memory and then everything went smooth as silk including the upgrade to ULTIMATE.. So far, Microsoft support has sent me all the articles I have already read and tried to apply to my situation. I already knew that they didn't help with the exception of the BCD Edit and that because I didn't know about the right click + run as administrator. I just thought Home Pr. didn't allow me to edit the boot sequence. When run properly the edit was reported successful but did not change anything. Support also had me check my device manager for anything related to PCI that had an orange flag but I don't have any problems in Device Manager that are flagged. The fella is Arthur and he seems determined to resolve the issue so I will post when successful (IF).

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    Re: 3GB memory (Vista Ultimate or home Premium)

    I just can't help but wonder if the file format (FAT32) has something to do with this issue? For the record, although Win XP will install and run on a FAT32 partition, this is not what it was designed to do. NTFS is the file format for XP. And Vista's NTFS is actually different (improved version) over that which XP should be running on. As an aside, I just finished configuring a new Acer Laptop which came with Win XP MCE installed. It had the typical hidden partition, but the remainder of the drive came with 2 FAT32 partitions on it. The very first thing I did was to delete the empty partition and then extend the "C:" partition so as to create one partition to work with. I then formatted the new large partition to NTFS and then lastly changed the cluster size to 4K from the original 512K. This made a world of difference in the overall performance of this laptop. Granted, it is rather unusual to go through all that mess, but it does make a considerable difference.

    Not to worry, I am NOT going to recommend going this route in your case. <IMG SRC=http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/giggle.gif> But again, I cannot help but wonder if the file format isn't at least a contributing factor. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

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    Re: 3GB memory (Vista Ultimate or home Premium)

    Jeff, You misunderstood what I did. I originally installed Vista from an XP Home OS installed on a FAT32 partition. Vista reformatted and then installed from scratch. In no way did Vista upgrade from FAT32. My other Hard Drive has XP Pro on NTFS but I found that XP Home is best installed on FAT32 so that you can grant permissions. On NTFS the only way to run many programs was from the administrator profile and that is not very secure. You just could not grant permissions. I was lucky that the fella that installed my first XP (Home) didn't like NTFS and recommended that I go with FAT32. Not knowing any better, I approved his decision. I read on how to grant permissions and never suspected that it wouldn't be that way with NTFS. I learned this by accident when I bought my wife a computer and had it installed on NTFS. I ended up having it reformatted to FAT32 so that I could have her computing from a USER profile. When Vista wouldn't install after I reformatted to NTFS and installed XP to install from, I assumed that I didn't have enough space so went back to the original setup (XP Home w/ FAT32). It would not duplicate the original installation and Reformat on its own. I had to do it myself. It still wouldn't install until I removed the 3rd stick of memory. Then I installed as a fresh install, complete with reformat, and not an upgrade. You can't upgrade XP Home to Vista even if you wanted to, and certainly not XP Home on FAT32.

    As an aside, I just got an e-mail from the support tech saying that he bumped my case up to a higher level tech. I evidently used up his level of expertise and the problem is too complicated for him. Hopefully the new guy/gal will be able to resolve this perplexing problem. It is ironic that the most advanced Microsoft OS won't permit the easiest, and most useful upgrade that a fella can perform.

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    Re: 3GB memory (Vista Ultimate or home Premium)

    Well, you obviously are sold on the idea that XP works best on FAT32, so I'm not going to spend time demonstrating that the drawbacks far outweigh any positives you have allegedly found. BTW, you definitely don't get more space using FAT32 which uses a 512KB cluster size vs. NTFS which uses a 4KB cluster size.

    At least your ticket has been bumped and that will perhaps result in someone being able to resolve your problem.

    I wish you the best,

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    Re: 3GB memory (Vista Ultimate or home Premium)

    Jeff, that only applies to XP Home. My XP PRO is on NTFS and works great. I don't disagree with anything you say about NTFS I just made the point that if you want to have a useable User Profile on XP Home you need to install on FAT32. The choice has nothing to do with space or speed or the like. I just wanted all my programs to work on the USER profile and they wouldn't in NTFS. I upgraded to XP PRO as soon as I could afford it for many of the reasons you 'cited. In the end it matters not because this is about VISTA and 3GB of memory. XP is past history on this Hard Drive.

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