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    Premature expiration

    For about two weeks after installing and activating my RC1 download of about July 3, it worked fine. Then, Win XP refused to complete a startup with the notice that the copy was no longer valid due to its expiration. The EULA says it was to be good for 180 days. Microsoft was able to reactivate it for the current session only, but the next restart produced the same result, as did a complete reinstall from the CD. I have been notified that I am in the pipeline for an RC2 download, but do not know if an RC2 install over RC1 will correct this problem, or just inherit it.

    Will RC2 correct this? If not, how can I proceed without losing my prior registry info?

    That brings up an idea I have for all you OS programmers. Is it not possible to create separate hardware and software registries? If so, it would allow people like me who keep OS, apps, updates, data and swapfiles on separate partitions to do a clean install (hardware-wise) and then, copy over the software registry from the prior installation that was saved to a CD or floppy. Activation schemes would still work, protecting the intellectual property rights.

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    Re: Premature expiration

    I have heard that this has happened, but the biggest problem was that people have or had the wrong date when WinXP was installed.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Premature expiration

    or change the date for testing something.

    a clean install is the only way to fix it.

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    Re: Premature expiration

    I know my date and time was correct. I just tried ASR on the machine, having used it to create a floppy and backups to another hard drive. My heart stopped a few minutes ago when the re-install process said something like "please wait while we reformat Drive C" with no opportunity to intervene! It finished formatting and then rebooted, and is now continuing. Stay tuned!

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    Re: ASR means Auto System wRecking

    Well, now I know. Don't even think about using ASR as a last ditch means of recovering from a problem with XP. It actually does make things worse. I had the ASR disk I created. I hit <F2> when prompted after booting from my CD of RC1. It asked that I insert the ASR floppy. It read the floppy, then, without warning, REFORMATTED drive C. The end result was a "restored" system that has corrupted hives AND a permanent loss of prior registry, recent docs, profiles and all the other critical data that MSFT software insists on storing on that drive.

    So, folks, $9.95, curiosity and too much idle time and bingo - a totally wrecked system. Such are the risks of betas, but in particular, this one. I think my time will be better spent on trying to get all the kinks out of Office XP, like Task Panes that never load as configured, etc.

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    Re: Premature expiration

    This is Microsoft's unintended demonstration of what it is going to be like running products that include the Registration(aka Activtion) Wizard.
    Legare Coleman

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    Re: Premature expiration

    It's a predictable subject.
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    Re: Premature expiration

    You're getting a little predictable, Legare. I bought RC1 to learn. They have a saying in Texas "All hat, no cows" that covers pretentious cowboys. This newsgroup has a lot of "All opinions, no help" people who seem to have nothing better to do than pounce on every incoming email to produce yet another version of their tiresome campaign speech.

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    Re: Premature expiration

    it's not an activation issue - it's a timed demo problem.

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    Re: Premature expiration

    But it demonstrates what will happen when a bug in the Registration/Activation Wizard decides you have changed machines.
    Legare Coleman

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    Re: Premature expiration

    I have installed Beta 2 quite a few times now, usually in dual boot (due to issue enumerated in my first topic post ) I accept the fact that I need to Activate it. Each has been running and booting fine, even when a copy timed out due to not being activated it worked fine after I did so.

    However, if the license is a 180 day license then it in theory it should do what it says on the tin, and last for 180 days.

    I would always store my data on a separate drive anyway, just in case <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> I also delete the System Volume Information regularly, as it just wastes space.

    RC

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