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Home>Clean-install Windows 7 from the upgrade disc

Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 221 • 2009-11-12 • Circulation: over 400,000


Table of contents 
  • Bonus: How to get the most from Windows 7
  • Top Story: Clean-install Windows 7 from the upgrade disc
  • Known Issues: Readers offer more ways to enhance Windows 7
  • Wacky Web Week: Invisible rope trips up unsuspecting passers-by
  • LangaList Plus: Wanted: a free, novice-proof disk wiper
  • In the Wild: SSL authentication flaw puts browsers at risk
  • Patch Watch: XP patch removes threat of malicious Web fonts

 
Bonus

How to get the most from Windows 7

This month’s free bonus for all subscribers is a three-chapter excerpt from Windows 7 Tweaks by Steve Sinchak. The book, which is subtitled A Comprehensive Guide on Customizing, Increasing Performance, and Securing Microsoft Windows 7, provides valuable information about making the most of Microsoft’s new operating system.

The printed volume won’t be available until next month, but all subscribers, free and paid, can receive our exclusive excerpt through Dec. 2. Simply visit your preferences page, save any changes, and a download link will appear. Thanks! —Brian Livingston, editorial director

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Top Story

Clean-install Windows 7 from the upgrade disc

Woody leonhard By Woody Leonhard

Topping the long list of readers’ Windows 7 questions is whether you can use the upgrade disc to perform a clean-install of the new OS.

You may be surprised to discover that in Windows 7 there’s no difference between the “upgrade” and “full” DVDs and — just as with XP and Vista — the cheaper upgrade version can indeed be used to perform a clean-install.

But that’s just one of your many Windows 7 questions. From what’s possible, to what’s legal, to what-on-earth-were-they-thinking, here’s the skinny on the ins and outs of Microsoft’s best OS yet. There’s no way to fit all your Win7 queries into a single column, so you can be sure I’ll have many more Win7 FAQs in the weeks to come.

Will a Win7 upgrade disc install the full OS?

  • “It looks like you can use the upgrade version of Windows 7 to install a ‘genuine’ copy of Windows 7 on any PC, whether it already has Windows on it or not. Why would anybody pay way more money and buy a full-install version of Windows 7 instead of an upgrade version?”
Good question. So far, the only people I know who’ve paid for the full version of Windows 7 thought they had to buy it because they were running Windows XP. When they read that they couldn’t do an in-place upgrade from XP to Win7, they mistakenly thought they had to buy the full release. They got ripped off.

The terminology stinks, but as you will see below in my discussion of upgrade pricing, almost everybody qualifies for an upgrade version of Windows 7.

In my experience, most people using the upgrade package find that their new Win7 key validates immediately after the PC connects to the Internet. You can maximize your chances of getting instant gratification (validation), however.

If you have a version of Windows running on your PC, start Windows, insert the Windows 7 upgrade DVD, and follow the on-screen instructions. (All of the usual caveats about first backing up your data apply, of course.) If you wish, you can reformat your hard drive at the beginning of the installation process. This wipes out all the old data stored on the drive.

In my testing, as long as I started the Win7 installation from within Windows, the upgrade key passed validation. It didn’t matter, in my test runs, whether the PC’s previous version of Windows had ever been validated as “genuine” or not.

If you don’t have Windows running — for example, if you’re installing the OS on a new hard drive — boot from the Win7 upgrade DVD and follow the on-screen instructions. Chances are good that Windows 7 will validate immediately, even if there was no copy of Windows on the drive beforehand.

I have a theory about how and why this straightforward validation just works, but Microsoft hasn’t yet divulged details. I’ll revisit the whys and wherefores in a future column.

If you type in the validation key and see a message stating, “The product key is not valid,” don’t fret. Go ahead and install Win7 without the key and plan on activating the OS later. Remember that you can run Win7 up to 120 days without activating it, as I explained in my Aug. 20 Top Story.

How do I get the upgrade key to activate?

  • “I installed the Windows 7 upgrade and the key doesn’t work. What should I do next?”
In such situations, Microsoft recommends that you call the company to validate your copy of Win7 over the phone. In my experience, phone validation works quickly and easily. The people answering the phone bend over backwards to get Win7 validated.

If you want to try this official, phone-it-in approach, review the question in the next section and make sure your PC qualifies for upgrade pricing. If it does, but you can’t get the key to work, gather whatever information you need to verify you qualify and then call Microsoft. The easy way to get Microsoft’s Win7 activation phone number is to click Start, type slui 4, and press Enter.

That said, you can activate with an upgrade key without calling Microsoft at all. There are several ways to do so. For example, writer Paul Thurrott documents in a blog post how you can upgrade in this situation by changing a byte in the Registry and running a single command line.

Failing that, another fairly simple (if more time-consuming) activation method to install from the Win7 upgrade disc and then upgrade Win7 on top of itself. This technique works in Win7 in a nearly identical way to the trick WS editorial director Brian Livingston described for Vista in a Feb. 1, 2007 Top Story.

The short version of that trick is this: Once you’ve installed Win7 from the upgrade DVD, start Win7, and then stick the upgrade disc in the drive again. Follow the instructions to upgrade, but don’t choose Custom — you’re upgrading to Windows 7 from Windows 7. Enter the key when requested, and it’ll validate the next time you’re online.

Does my PC qualify for upgrade pricing?

  • “I understand that there are many different ways to upgrade a PC to Windows 7. The $64 question (give or take a few bucks) is whether my PC qualifies for the Upgrade Option for Windows 7 rather than my having to buy the full version. How can I tell?”
Microsoft made it easy in Windows 7 to perform a full install of Windows 7 using only the less-expensive Upgrade Option for Windows 7. In fact, MS made the trick even easier in Windows 7 than it was in Vista, by adding to Win7 the Registry byte change that I mentioned above. The technique in Vista usually required a second install to work. Win7, thanks to changes deliberately added by Microsoft, usually doesn’t require that the setup routine be started twice.

Microsoft’s Windows 7 End-User License Agreement (EULA), however, says you can install an upgrade edition of Win7 only if you had a license for an earlier version of Windows that you’re eradicating.

It’s curious why Microsoft makes it so easy for customers to install an “upgrade” copy of Windows 7 on a PC that supposedly doesn’t qualify. Indeed, why has Microsoft built hooks into the Windows installer to specifically bypass the qualification test — hooks that have been left in place for years?

In any event, the relevant clause in the Win7 EULA says:

  • “To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.”
By that standard, the number of machines that don’t qualify for upgrade pricing is mighty tiny. (It also raises disturbing questions about multiboot systems, but I’ll discuss multibooting in a future column.)

For example, if you own a computer with a Windows Certificate of Authenticity sticker on the case as proof of ownership — and the certificate is for Vista or XP — there’s no question whatsoever that the PC qualifies for upgrade pricing.

If you’ve ever paid for a full copy of Windows — one you purchased “off the shelf,” not a copy that was preinstalled on a PC — you own the right to use that copy of Windows on any PC you like, as long as you use it on only one machine at a time. There’s no requirement that you activate it in order for a Win7 upgrade to work on it. How can that not be a legitimate candidate for a Windows 7 upgrade?

The universe of PCs that don’t qualify for upgrade pricing would seem to be limited to those that (1) have been built from scratch or (2) bear counterfeit builds Windows that unsuspecting customers bought from unscrupulous box shops. New virtual machines also require the full version, but that’s about it — this represents a very tiny slice of the consumer-PC pie.

How do I know my Win7 installation is legit?

  • “If I can get an upgrade version of Windows 7 to install on my PC and it validates as ‘genuine,’ I’m running everything legally and don’t need to worry about it, right?”
As far as I can tell, if you pass the validation hurdle once with an upgrade version of Windows 7, your computer won’t have to do anything in the future to prove whether you were or were not entitled to an upgrade.

You’ll definitely be running a copy of Win7 that’s validated as genuine. Whether that also means your new copy meets the written definition in Microsoft’s EULA depends on whether you ever owned a legal copy of Windows for that PC. That can sometimes be hard to verify.

Can I upgrade in place from XP to Vista to Win7?

  • “I’m running Windows XP. I know I can’t do an in-place upgrade from XP to Windows 7, but can I do an in-place upgrade from XP to Vista, and then another from Vista to Windows 7?”
You can, but that gives Windows two opportunities to shoot you in the foot.

Many of my friends tell me I’m superstitious, but I strongly recommend that people perform a custom (clean) install. Yes, that entails reinstalling programs and re-entering your custom system settings, but it’s still my advice — even if you have a PC that can accommodate an in-place upgrade.

Sticking Win7 on top of an old copy of Windows is like building a new house on old landfill. You never know what’s going to come to the surface, or where, or when. A very large percentage of the problems people are having with Windows 7 installations occur with in-place upgrades.

Which Win7 is right for me: 32-bit or 64-bit?

  • “Should I install the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows 7? How do I get the right one?”
Every Windows 7 box that you buy on store shelves — whether an upgrade or full version of Home Premium, Professional, or Ultimate — contains two DVDs. One has the 32-bit version and the other has the 64-bit version.

If you ignore the recommendation I made in the above item and insist on performing an in-place upgrade, you can do so only from 32-bit to 32-bit or 64-bit to 64-bit. However, if you do a custom (clean) install on a machine that formerly ran a 32-bit version of XP or Vista, you should seriously consider moving to 64-bit computing.

See my July 16 Top Story for information that will help you determine whether 64-bit is right for you. If you decide that it is, follow the instructions in the article to run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor.

If the Upgrade Advisor indicates your PC can support a 64-bit version of Windows — and it doesn’t warn you that your specific hardware doesn’t have drivers — give 64-bit a try. Although there are some devices from major manufacturers that don’t have 64-bit drivers, several of these vendors have been embarrassed into writing new ones.

Can I upgrade Vista Ultimate to any Win7 flavor?

  • “I got suckered into paying for Windows Vista Ultimate. What a waste! Adding insult to pecuniary injury, if I want to upgrade, I have to pay for Windows 7 Ultimate, right?”
Nope.

If you want to perform an in-place upgrade from 32-bit Vista Ultimate, you have to pay for the Windows 7 Ultimate upgrade and must install the 32-bit version. However, if you perform a custom (clean) install, you can upgrade that Vista Ultimate PC to whichever version of Windows 7 you prefer.

It gets confusing because the term “upgrade” has two completely different meanings. If you want to do an in-place upgrade and avoid reinstalling your programs and updating your settings, you have very limited choices about which versions of Windows you can start with and what you can upgrade to. (See Microsoft’s somewhat-muddled explanation of the Win7 Upgrade Option Program on the official Windows 7 site.)

If you’re willing to perform a clean install, you can upgrade any version of XP or Vista to any version of Windows 7, and you need pay for only the Upgrade Option for Windows 7 — no need to buy the full-install package.

I just saved you about a hundred bucks, yes?

The Windows 7 Q&A parade has just begun

This is a small sample of the myriad Win7 questions that have hit my inbox. Some people are having problems with installations that go part way through and freeze. Others see the installation fail, then automatically try again repeatedly.

There are more than a few blue screens running around, and some of you can’t find your games after a Win7 upgrade. I’ll be covering these and many more problems in future columns.

UPDATE 2009-11-19: In the Nov. 19 Top Story, Woody Leonhard describes solutions to several Windows 7 upgrade problems.

I think Microsoft’s biggest mistakes with Windows 7 are the confusing number of versions and upgrade paths, as well as the complete dearth of technical information about the upgrade-validation process.

The product’s great. The rollout bites.

Woody Leonhard‘s latest books — Windows 7 All-In-One For Dummies and Green Home Computing For Dummies — deliver the straight story — hold the sugar coating — in a way that won’t put you to sleep.

 
Known Issues

Readers offer more ways to enhance Windows 7

Dennis o'reilly By Dennis O’Reilly

Like pouring hot fudge onto vanilla ice cream, there’s nothing like making a good thing better.

Even with near-universal positive reviews, Windows 7 could still stand some improvements — and Windows Secrets readers know just how to enhance the new OS.

Sure, some hardware vendors have been slow to provide Win7 device drivers for some of their products. And some people attempting to upgrade to Windows 7 are greeted with blue screens and infinite loops. But most Windows 7 users wouldn’t think of reverting to their previous OS.

That doesn’t mean they haven’t found ways to make using Windows 7 even better. For example, Cris DeRaud discovered a script that lets you create a Win7 restore point with a single click:
  • “I found today that creating a restore point in Windows 7 takes on a new twist and requires knowledge of the proper paths and security settings. When my computer is running really sweet, I’ll add restore points of my own. I name them ‘smooth sailing.’

    “Well, I ran into a snag today trying to make a restore point the Vista way because the option link is all changed in Windows 7. I found an easy alternative from a group of Windows 7 lovers who spell out all the options [on the Windows Seven Forums site].

    “I chose the option to download the script and icon file they have available. Now I just click the icon, name my restore point, and click OK.”

If you prefer to use the manual approach to creating a restore point in Windows 7, right-click the Computer icon, choose Properties, click System Protection in the left pane, verify that System Protection is on, click the Create button, give the restore point a name, and click Create again.

Free MS tool facilitates networking XP PCs

In his Nov. 5 Woody’s Windows column (paid content), contributing editor Woody Leonhard described ways to network PCs running Windows 7, Vista, and XP. Stuart Berg reminds us of a free utility from Microsoft that makes finding XP systems on a home network nearly automatic:
  • “In your article ‘Add Windows 7 PCs to Vista and XP networks,’ you never mentioned adding the Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder to XP. I believe that it makes the networking experience easier and more reliable. If running XP SP2, it can be downloaded [from the Microsoft Download Center], and if running XP SP3, it can be downloaded [via Knowledge Base article 922120].”
Note that the LLTD Responder utility requires a Windows Genuine Advantage scan and works only with 32-bit XP PCs.

UPDATE 2009-11-19: In the Nov. 19 Known Issues column, reader Ian Journeaux describes the manual method for installing the LLTD Responder utility.

Bring the Quick Launch toolbar back to Windows 7

In the Nov. 5 Known Issues column, Ed Kirkpatrick described how he created a custom Windows 7 toolbar to replace the Quick Launch toolbar, which is missing by default in Win7. David Shirly was one of several readers who provided us with instructions for restoring Win7′s Quick Launch toolbar:
  • “Regarding Dennis O’Reilly’s piece on Windows 7 early adopters: Quick Launch is still available, but it’s hidden by default. You have to know where to look:

    C: Users  username  AppData  Roaming  Microsoft  Internet Explorer  Quick Launch

    “Simply create a new toolbar and point to this location. You’ll have to enable ‘show hidden files’ to find it.”
UPDATE 2009-11-19: In the Nov. 19 Known Issues column, reader Al Arntson points out that using Windows 7′s Pin to Taskbar context-menu (right-click) option to place application shortcuts in the taskbar is simpler than re-enabling the Quick Launch toolbar.

Thanks to David and everyone else who let us know how to find this (suddenly) hidden Windows 7 feature. Anybody know where I can find Win7′s Program Manager?

Readers Cris, Stuart, and David will each receive a gift certificate for a book, CD, or DVD of their choice for sending tips we printed. Send us your tips via the Windows Secrets contact page.


 
Wacky Web Week

Invisible rope trips up unsuspecting passers-by

invisible rope prank By Stephanie Small

Remember when you were a kid, and playing pranks on people was the thing to do? Whether it was jumping out of the closet to scare someone or making the infamous prank calls during a sleepover, it was fun — usually, anyway — for both parties involved.

Why not resurrect an oldie-but-goodie prank: the invisible rope. Watch as these jokester juveniles trick cars and mall pedestrians into thinking there’s something there when there really isn’t. It will make you look twice the next time you spot someone trying to pull this off! Play the video


 
LangaList Plus

Wanted: a free, novice-proof disk wiper

Fred langa By Fred Langa

Wiping the data off old drives is a smart thing to do, but secure erasing also must be easy to do.

Powerful software is worthless if it’s too hard to use, but I’ve found a free drive-wiping tool that’s powerful enough for pros yet simple enough for newbies.


In search of a simple, CD-based disk wiper

Kim Boriskin needs a tool that anyone — even unskilled volunteers — can use to reliably wipe the data off hard drives:
  • “I do some work for an organization that often processes computers before distributing them to charities, for example. We always wipe the hard drives using a Department of Defense (DoD) wipe. We’ve been using a bootable floppy disk to perform the wipes, but fewer computers than ever have floppy drives, and for reasons I won’t discuss, we won’t use a USB floppy drive to start the process.

    “Do you know of any free disk wipers that can be written on a bootable CD and that can accomplish a secure disk wipe? I’ve found only one, Darik’s Boot and Nuke, from DBAN [more info]. But it’s confusing to nontechies, and clumsy even for techies. We could use something simpler.”

It’s a good idea to data-wipe old drives. Discarded and recycled PCs are a rich vein for identity thieves to tap.

You’re dealing with two separate issues: you need a tool that’s easier to use than the one you currently have and one that can run on a bootable CD. I have a solution, but it takes a minute to get there — so bear with me.

Scrub3 is a venerable, free tool that’s widely used for rendering hard disk data all-but-impossible to recover. Scrub3 can overwrite the disk with various patterns, including the original (2001) DoD three-pass overwrite and the newer, National Security Agency–recommended seven-pass overwrite.

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In the Wild

SSL authentication flaw puts browsers at risk

Robert vamosi By Robert Vamosi

A hole discovered recently in Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) HTTP sessions is difficult to exploit but may necessitate a revision of the SSL protocol itself.

The big-name browser vendors are quietly working to patch the vulnerability before the bad guys figure out how to use it to crack secure Web connections.


Transport Layer Security protocol exploitable

Last August, while researching various applications used by two-factor authentication vendor PhoneFactor, researcher Marsh Ray discovered something odd in the way the SSL Transport Layer Security (TLS) protocol handled authentication renegotiation. Ray was able to write an exploit that would, under certain circumstances, allow a man-in-the-middle attack to eavesdrop on SSL sessions used for e-commerce and online banking.

The flaw allows the attacker to join an authenticated SSL session and execute commands. After Ray proved the exploit to his bosses, he chose not to go public and instead followed Dan Kaminsky’s example after he discovered a major DNS flaw in 2008. (WS contributing editor Ryan Russell described the DNS vulnerability in his July 17, 2008, Perimeter Scan column.)

Just as Kaminsky did last year, Ray quietly contacted the vendors most affected by the SSL/TLS flaw and worked in the background to implement a fix before the malware writers got word of it. In September, Google even hosted a meeting at its Mountain View, CA, campus that produced a tentative draft proposal for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF). Microsoft had hosted a similar meeting on the DNS flaw for Kaminsky last year.

On Nov. 4 — quite independently — another researcher, Martin Rex of SAP, went public on the IETF TLS mailing list with his discovery of flaws within channel bindings that also affect TLS. A lively and extended discussion ensued.

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Patch Watch

XP patch removes threat of malicious Web fonts

Susan bradley By Susan Bradley

Systems running Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Windows Server 2003 are at risk of infection via fonts used on malicious Web sites.

No attacks exploiting this vulnerability have been recorded yet, but I expect them to begin soon — so apply this patch right away.


MS09-065 (969947)
Embedded OpenType fonts pose remote-attack risk

Patch MS09-065 (969947) addresses several vulnerabilities in the Windows kernel. One in particular poses serious threats to Windows 2000, XP, and Server 2003. A specific type of Embedded OpenType font allows remote code execution, launching a denial-of-service attack or even taking over your system. The hole will very likely be exploited soon by malicious Web sites.

As frightening as that sounds, the good news is that this week’s patch installed without a hitch on my test XP systems. Apply this update as soon as you can to ensure you’re protected from malicious Web activity. Also, since the exploit requires that you visit a malicious site, think twice before you click a dodgy link in an e-mail or instant message.

While several other November patches are rated “Critical” by Microsoft, this is the only one of this month’s Windows updates that I rate as truly imperative.

UPDATE 2009-11-19: In the Nov. 19 Patch Watch column, Susan describes a problem the XP kernel patch causes for systems using ATI Radeon HD 2400 and Nvidia GeForce 7050/NForce 610i video adapters.

MS09-067 (972652) and MS09-068 (976307)
Infected Excel and Word files make the rounds

No doubt you’ve been warned before of the dangers of opening Word and Excel files attached to unexpected e-mails. MS09-067 (972652) and MS09-068 (976307) plug holes that allow a phishing attack to take control of your system when you open an infected Word or Excel file.

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