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Home>Make your computer dual-boot Vista and XP

Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 140 • 2008-02-14 • Circulation: over 400,000


Table of contents 
  • Top Story: Make your computer dual-boot Vista and XP
  • Known Issues: Labs provide alternatives in evaluating suites
  • Wacky Web Week: Suffering the slings of Cupid’s arrow
  • LangaList Plus: Task Scheduler tricks help you save time
  • PC Tune-Up: A few jolts to increase your desktop performance
  • Patch Watch: Instead of roses, send a dozen patches today

 
Top Story

Make your computer dual-boot Vista and XP

Scott dunn By Scott Dunn

It’s getting harder to buy a new computer with Windows XP installed and — after Microsoft stops selling XP on June 30, 2008 — it will become nearly impossible.

Fortunately, you can have your XP cake and eat your Vista, too, by setting up your system to boot between the two operating systems.

Add an XP option to your new Vista system

If a new computer arrived in your recent past, or you plan to buy one in the near future, chances are it will come with Windows Vista installed. Although some manufacturers still give you the option of getting XP on your new system, that option is likely to dry up for most consumers later this year when Microsoft stops selling Windows XP.

If you’re not ready to dive into Vista all at once, there is an answer: set up your Vista computer to dual-boot between Vista and XP.

In this article, I’ll tell you how to make your PC give you a choice between Vista and XP every time you start up. In a separate article coming soon, I’ll give you some additional tips that save disk space on a dual-boot system.

Although some sources, such as Computer Shopper Magazine, advise that you need an add-on product like VistaBootPro to dual-boot, you can accomplish the same thing without any additional software other than the two operating systems.

Before starting, make sure you have your Windows XP install discs ready as well as your Windows Vista DVD. In addition, it’s a good idea to make a complete system backup before beginning an operation like this.

Once you’ve laid that groundwork, you’re ready to go to work:

Step 1. In Vista, click Start, type diskmgmt.msc, and press Enter. Click Continue if prompted by User Account Control.

Step 2. Right-click a drive and choose Shrink Volume. Specify the amount to shrink, which in this case is the amount you want for your XP partition. At a minimum, you’ll need around 2.5GB for XP Pro SP2. I suggest you select a larger partition to leave room for updates and other files that may need to be on the same drive as XP. Because I wanted a 5GB partition, I typed 5000 (representing 5,000 megabytes) in the available box. Click Shrink.

Step 3. Right-click the newly available area and choose New Simple Volume. Follow the steps in the wizard to assign a drive letter now, or wait until the next step. When prompted, check Perform a quick format to format the volume with NTFS.

Step 4. When the wizard is done formatting the new volume, you can assign or rearrange drive letters as needed. For example, changing drive letters may also put your CD/DVD drive in a more logical order.

To do that, right-click a volume or the CD/DVD drive and choose Change Drive Letters and Paths. If a volume hasn’t got a drive letter yet, click Add. Otherwise, select the drive icon in the dialog box and click Change.

If you’re rearranging the letters on existing drives, you may need to change the drives in a particular order. Or you may need to give a drive a temporary letter (such as Z) to free up a letter for another drive; you would change the Z drive to something else later. Make your selection and click OK. Repeat for other partitions or drives until you have the order you want.

Step 5. When you’re done with your partitioning chores, exit Disk Management. Insert your XP disc into the drive and restart your system, booting from that disk.

Step 6. Follow the steps to install XP. When asked for the target drive, select your new partition and press Enter. Because you already formatted this partition with NTFS, you can skip the formatting step. At the appropriate screen, arrow down to Leave the current file system intact (no changes) and press Enter. Continue the installation process until it’s finished and XP has started.

Step 7. Your system now boots to XP, so we’ll need to do some fixing to set up a boot menu. Insert your Vista DVD and restart the computer from it. Click Next in the first screen.

Step 8. Don’t click Install when prompted! Instead, click Repair Your Computer in the lower-left corner.

Step 9. When the System Recovery Options dialog appears, make sure Microsoft Windows Vista is selected and click Next. In the next dialog box, select the Command Prompt option at the bottom.

Step 10. In the command-prompt window, type the following commands and press Enter after each one:

bootrec.exe /fixMBR
bootrec.exe /fixBoot

Step 11. Close the command prompt and click Restart.

Step 12. When your computer has booted into Vista, click Start, type cmd.exe, and press Ctrl+Shift+Enter to make the command window open with elevated privileges. Click Continue, if prompted by User Account Control.

Step 13. Type the following commands in the command window, one at at time, pressing Enter after each one. After each command, you should get the response, “The operation completed successfully.” A response of, “The specified entry already exists,” is OK, too. If not, retype your command to make sure you’ve entered it correctly. If Vista is installed on a drive other than c:, change the first command below to use the proper drive letter. The curly braces around {ntldr} in each command must be typed exactly as shown:

bcdedit -set {ntldr} device partition=C:
bcdedit -set {ntldr} path ntldr
bcdedit -displayorder {ntldr} -addlast
bcdedit -set {ntldr} description “Microsoft Windows XP”

That’s it! The next time you restart your system, you should be see a prompt that will let you choose between Vista or XP. Select the one you want and press Enter.

UPDATE 2008-02-14: When XP and Vista are installed in a dual-boot configuration, every time XP is booted it deletes any system restore points that Vista created (including “shadow copies” of files) and all but the latest backup, if the Vista application known as Complete PC Backup has been used. Microsoft acknowledges the problem and recommends two workarounds. See our Feb. 21, 2008, article.

How to customize your boot menu

When you start your dual-boot system, the menu will appear for a few seconds. If you don’t press any keys, eventually Windows Vista will start. Fortunately, you can change this if you don’t want Vista to be your default operating system. You can also customize the waiting period before the default kicks in.

Here’s what to do:

Step 1. Click Start. Type systempropertiesadvanced and press Enter. Click Continue, if prompted by User Account Control.

Step 2. Under Startup and Recovery, click Settings.

Step 3. At the top of the dialog box, select the operating system you want to start by default.

Step 4. In the box to the right of Time to display list of operating systems, specify the number of seconds for the options to stay on screen. Click OK.

Microsoft provides documentation of Vista’s bcdedit command and its parameters in an article in the Windows Vista Technical Library.

Having two operating systems on the same computer definitely takes a little extra disk space. In a future column, I’ll show you some ways to make the two operating systems share some common resources to save on storage.

Have a tip? Readers receive a gift certificate for a book, CD, or DVD of their choice for sending comments we print. Send us your tips via the Windows Secrets contact page.

Scott Dunn is associate editor of the Windows Secrets Newsletter. He has been a contributing editor of PC World since 1992 and currently writes for the Here’s How section of that magazine.

 
Known Issues

Labs provide alternatives in evaluating suites

By Scott Dunn

My Feb. 7 article explained that the WSN Security Baseline summarizes the top ratings of several respected computer publications, but it is only a starting point for those who want to do their own research.

One reader responded with an impressive list of independent labs that evaluate security software and publish the results online.

Finding credible security suite rankings online

The Known Issues column on Feb. 7 discussed the question of how we select the products that are listed in the Security Baseline. To add to the conversation, reader Tunga Kiyak offers these comments:
  • “While I agree with your perspective that recommending a suite instead of individual components does make the software easier to use and maintain, and the trade-off in not having the ‘best’ of each component is inconsequential, I must disagree with your stated criteria of using PC World and PC Magazine Editors’ Choices as the selection criteria.

    “I think it is now widely accepted that both magazines, because of staff and budget cuts, do not fully evaluate the software but write cursory reviews based on the spec sheets and press releases that the software companies provide them. And, at times, when they do conduct tests, they conduct only very basic tests within their budget.

    “So may I recommend that you include a few of the independent labs that do a very good job of testing this software?

    “Of course, a caution is in order: these labs do not look at usability or stability or resource utilization of the software; they only look at how well the software does the job it is designed to do. So only using these lab results will also give you only half the picture, but admittedly a better picture than just using PC Magazine and PC World alone (and yes, in some reviews, both magazines refer to one or more of these labs’ results, but not always and not consistently).

    • ICSALabs (monthly anti-virus test results)
    • Virus Bulletin (regular anti-virus tests)
    • AV-Test
    • AV-Comparatives
    • Matousec (for firewalls)
    • Firewall Leak Tester

    “At the very least, you can share some of these resources with your readers so that they can judge the results themselves. But, if they do, many of them will see that Symantec usually rates very highly on most of the antivirus tests, but only slightly better than average in the firewall tests.”
Thanks, Tunga. Please consider this list shared!

Readers, let’s continue this discussion as we work to improve our overview of security products needed by individuals and small businesses. Send your comments via the Windows Secrets contact page.

Norton Removal Tool can damage QuickBooks

My Feb. 7 lead story included a discussion of the Norton Removal Tool, which Symantec provides for correcting incomplete uninstalls. However, as Charles Rathbun points out, this tool is known to cause problems for another product:
  • “If you have QuickBooks 2005 or newer on your system, Symantec’s removal tool can really screw things up. It messes with [Microsoft's] .NET [Framework] software, causing a nightmare when you’re trying to figure out why QuickBooks suddenly stopped loading.

    “Intuit has a warning and explanation about the Norton Removal tool on their Web site.

    “I’ve stopped using this tool if I find any versions of QuickBooks, because of the problems I’ve experienced in the past. I’ve had to eat some serious tech-support time and spent multiple hours reinstalling and fixing QuickBooks due to problems the Norton tool has created.”
Thanks for the warning, Charles.

Commercial software helps finish bad uninstalls

If you’re looking for other tools to help remove inadequately uninstalled Symantec programs or other security software, several readers reported having good luck using commercial uninstaller utilities, such as the free Revo Uninstaller (among others) as well as reputable Registry cleaning utilities.

Like security software, you’ll want to consult reviews and do your homework before using just any old utility for this job. For more information on Registry cleaners, start by reading the Mar. 1, 2007, article on the subject by Windows Secrets editor-at-large Fred Langa.

Readers Kiyak and Rathbun will each receive a gift certificate for a book, CD, or DVD of their choice for sending tips we printed.


 
Wacky Web Week

Suffering the slings of Cupid’s arrow

Cupid  Cupid. That sweet, cherubic boy of Valentine lore who, with a single pluck of his bow, can bring together star-crossed lovers, awaken a cold heart from its frosty slumber, and famously inspire love down through the ages.

Sadly, the Cupid in this hilarious, two-minute video created at the Savannah College of Art & Design seems a bit green. Someone apparently forgot to tell him that Cupid’s arrows are usually metaphorical. Play the video


 
LangaList Plus

Task Scheduler tricks help you save time

Fred langa By Fred Langa

Some excellent reader feedback came in this month that lets us get even more out of task automation.

One little password trick and two freeware tools can help you ease your PC maintenance chores and unleash the full power of Windows Task Scheduler.


What if Task Scheduler demands a password?

My article on Jan. 10 generated some excellent follow-up questions. You may find the answers useful in setting up your automated tasks and getting past any glitches you encounter.

First, a reader named Jim touches on a very common problem in systems that were originally set up with minimal logon security:

  • “I really liked the article on scheduling complex tasks. In fact, the example (Spybot Search & Destroy) was exactly the software I wanted to automate.

    “However, I ran into a problem: I do not use account passwords on my system. As a result, the scheduler doesn’t want to run the task.

    “I am reluctant to molest my system without a clear idea of the correct way to proceed. How can I painlessly convert to a password-based system?

Piece o’ cake, Jim.

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PC Tune-Up

A few jolts to increase your desktop performance

Mark edwards By Mark Edwards

Some of your systems might be running slowly — but maybe you don’t have to replace them just yet.

This week, I tell you about some tips and tools you can use to boost performance on Vista, XP, and even older versions of Windows.


A dozen ways to speed up Windows Vista

I recently came across a page at Microsoft’s Web site that offers tips on how to speed up Vista. When you read the document, “Optimize Windows Vista for better performance,” you’ll find 12 tips that help boost performance. While some of the tips are rather self-evident, some are not so obvious.

According to Microsoft, the best ways to boost performance are as follows:

  • Delete programs you never use.
  • Limit how many programs load at startup.
  • Defragment your hard drive.
  • Clean up your hard disk.
  • Run fewer programs at the same time.
  • Turn off visual effects.
  • Restart regularly.
  • Add more memory.
  • Check for viruses and spyware.
  • Check your computer’s speed.
  • Disable services you don?t need.
  • Don’t settle for slow.
As you read Microsoft’s outline, you’ll find semi-detailed explanations that’ll help you take advantage of each of the suggested performance improvements. The tips’ explanations are tailored for Vista users, but keep in mind that many of the same basic principles apply to any version of Windows.

At least one of the tips, “Restart regularly,” is true but puzzling. In my experience, Windows slows when I don’t reboot it for a long period of time — usually a week or more. Interestingly enough, I also have a Linux desktop, which never slows down regardless of how long I go between reboots. To be sure, that’s only the case until I run some sort of application that has leaky memory or fails to release unused memory when it’s not in use.

Even in the absence of an app with a memory leak, however, Windows does need to be rebooted once in a while to keep it at maximum performance. If any of your Windows systems are pokey, read Microsoft’s document and benefit as much as you can from the suggestions.

Turn off unwanted programs that load at startup

One of the performance improvement techniques that I mentioned in the previous item is to limit how many programs load at startup. That tip applies to any Windows system, not just Vista. So how do you find out what programs automatically start themselves when a system starts up or a user logs in?

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Patch Watch

Instead of roses, send a dozen patches today

Susan bradley By Susan Bradley

A whopping 11 security patches and 7 nonsecurity patches were released this month for Windows, Firefox, Acrobat, and QuickTime, which means a potentially rough patching month.

Rather than giving your loved ones red roses or fat-laden chocolates for Valentine’s Day, show them how much you care by fixing their systems with these updates that the patch gods have sent us.


Make time to run this free, post-patching test

Before I begin discussing the very complex set of patches we face today, I want you to set aside time to run Secunia’s free Personal Software Inspector after installing this month’s patches. The PSI tool can be downloaded from the Secunia Web site.

Checking the status of your PCs after patching them is very important this month. In addition to the many large patches that have just been released by Microsoft, patches are also needed, according to the latest Secunia advisories, for Sun Java 5 and 6, Skype, QuickTime, and Adobe Reader 8.x.

As noted on the Secunia blog, over 80% of the PCs recently tested by the firm’s software are vulnerable to one or more threats that vendors have closed by releasing patches.

Since the day that blog entry was posted, Firefox has come out with an additional update, as well. Chances are that — even if you’re diligent — you might miss an update for a piece of software, not realizing that the app is vulnerable and needs updating.

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