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Home>PC rebooting? The cause may be MS OneCare

Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 128 • 2007-10-25 • Circulation: over 400,000


Table of contents 
  • Introduction: Help us send you a better newsletter
  • Top Story: PC rebooting? The cause may be MS OneCare
  • Known Issues: U3 flash drives rendered useless on some PCs
  • Wacky Web Week: Global crash reveals modern Internet addiction
  • LangaList Plus: Part five: big power supplies need good fans
  • Woody's Windows: My must-have tools for Windows users
  • Perimeter Scan: Driver Detective finds outdated software

 
Introduction

Help us send you a better newsletter

Brian Livingston 1 Help us send you a better newsletter By Brian Livingston

We get some great tips from you, our readers, giving us insight into your thinking and the problems you face.

But we’ve always wondered how many of our readers work in large organizations vs. small businesses, and we’re giving you a chance to tell us the answer today.

We write for both large and small operations

We try to make our articles serve all Windows users, from someone who uses a single PC at home to the IT director of a large enterprise. By writing clearly and simply, even about the most technical subjects, we hope to provide advice you can easily follow to make Windows work better for you.

At the same time, we’d like to know the size and scope of the outfit you work in, if any. Since our readers may work in multinational corporations, tiny nonprofits, or anything in between (or no work environment at all), our question asks about the size of your entire “organization,” whatever that term means to you.

Simply select the choice that best represents your guess of the number.

What is the total number of employees in your entire organization?

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If you’d like to see a breakdown of the answers that other readers have entered, select the option shown above that best fits your situation. The results will be revealed on the Web page that will open in your browser. Thanks for your help!

Brian Livingston is editorial director of WindowsSecrets.com and the co-author of Windows Vista Secrets and 10 other books.

 
Top Story

PC rebooting? The cause may be MS OneCare

Scott Dunn 2 PC rebooting? The cause may be MS OneCare By Scott Dunn

Installing Windows Live OneCare, Microsoft’s downloadable security suite, changes the settings of Automatic Updates without notifying users or honoring their update preferences.

This behavior may explain reports that Windows has been mysteriously installing patches and rebooting itself, even though users had completely shut down the Automatic Updates function.

Users surprised by change to AU settings

I reported on Sept. 13 that Windows Update (WU) periodically installs a set of nine executable files without notice to users, even if Automatic Updates (AU) is set to “notify me but don’t automatically install.” On Sept. 27, I wrote that the executable files silently installed by AU starting in July prevent Windows XP from installing any security patches at all if XP was repaired using its original CD.

Many companies and individuals have a policy of carefully testing for negative side-effects in Microsoft patches before allowing them to be installed. It’s particularly surprising for these users, who’ve carefully configured their Windows machines to install patches manually, to find that their machines have been updated and rebooted anyway.

A blog named AeroXperience posted comments on Oct. 10 saying Windows Update was forcing such reboots. Users around the globe wrote in to the blog’s forum, saying their settings had mysteriously been switched to automatically install patches, and their PCs restarted at 3:00 a.m. (the default install time in the Automatic Updates control panel). Many commenters swore that they’d previously configured the control panel to prevent such installations.

AeroExperience blamed Windows Update for making the changes to users’ systems. ZDNet blogger Mary Jo Foley repeated the accusation on Oct. 12, adding fuel to the fire.

In a response on Oct. 12, Microsoft Update program manager Nate Clinton denied that Automatic Updates had made any changes to users’ AU settings. The posting was later updated to include several possible explanations, all of which include the user choosing to turn on AU when prompted by some software or installer.

But user choice plays no role in changing AU settings when installing Windows Live OneCare.

My finding is that Windows Live OneCare silently changes the AU settings. This explains at least some of the complaints that have been reported so far. Users could have installed OneCare — even a free-trial version — at any time in the recent past and been unaware of any changes until Automatic Updates forced a reboot in the wee hours.

In repeated tests on Windows XP and Vista, I installed Windows Live OneCare, which costs U.S. $49.95 per year after a 90-day free trial. In every case, OneCare changed a machine’s Automatic Updates settings to fully automatic.

It did so even when Automatic Updates had been completely disabled. In Windows XP, this state is known as “Turn off Automatic Updates.” In Vista, it’s called “Never check for updates.” In no case did the OneCare installer give any indication that a machine’s Automatic Updates settings would be changed.

Worse, OneCare silently enables Windows services that had been carefully disabled using Microsoft’s own configuration utilities (as I explain below).

Whereas OneCare is a downloadable and therefore optional security suite, Automatic Updates is a built-in service for patching Windows. AU is capable of downloading and installing updates from Microsoft at a preset time.

Windows Users can choose from four options for updates:

1. Automatic;

2. Download updates for me, but let me choose when to install them;

3. Notify me but don’t automatically download or install them; and

4. Turn off Automatic Updates.

XP users can change these settings using the Control Panel applet called Automatic Updates. Vista users must first launch the Windows Update control panel and then click Change settings in the upper-left corner.

OneCare installer turns on disabled services

Surprisingly, the installation of OneCare silently changes Automatic Updates settings to automatically install patches and reboot the system, despite defensive measures a user might take to prevent this.

• Users are not warned of changed settings. Early in the installation process, users are invited to read OneCare’s feature summary. They are informed that using the service means agreeing to the Microsoft Online Privacy Statement as well as the OneCare privacy supplement.

These documents mention the updating of OneCare’s virus and spyware definitions, but they do not indicate any dependence on Windows Updates. Moreover, the statements say nothing about changing your Automatic Updates settings.

Pages at the OneCare site, such as Service Overview, state that the service “works with Microsoft Update.” Similarly, another overview link at the bottom of the page displays a table of features that mentions “Microsoft Update integration.” But again, users are not warned that their AU settings may be changed.

More important, no warning is given in the application during or after installation. Instead, the software simply reports: “Windows Live OneCare is up-to-date and your status is good.”

An obscure online help topic for OneCare does admit to turning on Automatic Updates, but the information is buried under “Frequently asked questions about other updates for Microsoft programs” (click “What does Windows Live OneCare to do help manage and maintain my computer’s software updates?”). But this hard-to-find paragaraph is hardly adequate notice to new users of the service.

• Services are affected, too. OneCare’s installer even overrides settings made using the Services management console. Turning off Automatic Updates (using option 4, mentioned above) doesn’t actually disable two related services, which continue to run in the background. Because these services might some day install something without authorization, many users run a utility called services.msc to disable them. In XP, one affected service is called Automatic Updates, while in Vista it’s called Windows Update. The other service is known as Background Intelligent Transfer Services (BITS) in both versions of the operating system.

Even if these two services have been manually set to Disabled, the OneCare installer changes their startup type to Automatic and restarts them.

• The changes are unavoidable. The silent changes made by OneCare cannot be prevented by disconnecting a system from the Internet during installation. Doing so only prevents OneCare from being installed, since its installer requires an Internet connection.

Furthermore, uninstalling OneCare does not return a system’s Automatic Updates setting to its previous state. AU remains set to install updates and reboot the PC automatically.

How to work around OneCare’s settings change

If you wish to use OneCare, but you want updates to be installed only when you’re first notified, the only workaround is to install the program and then change Automatic Updates back to your preferred settings. If you install OneCare when Windows is not likely to phone home, you should be able to change AU before any updates are automatically installed. (Installing OneCare at any time other than 3:00 a.m. should do the trick.)

After you’ve installed OneCare, it doesn’t change your Automatic Updates settings again. But OneCare does flag the disabled Automatic Updates as an “urgent” matter that you should correct. In this situation, the OneCare icon in the taskbar tray turns a bright shade of red, which you may find annoying.

An alternative workaround is to buy and use security software other than Microsoft’s.

In the past, to be sure, some third-party security applications have also had the problem of changing users’ Automatic Updates settings. For example, the May 25, 2006, issue of Windows Secrets noted that Norton Internet Security silently changed Automatic Updates to automatic (if auto-updating was turned on in the Norton suite).

Since that time, however, most security applications have learned to refrain from tampering with user settings.

For the sake of comparison, I installed Norton 360, Norton Internet Security, McAfee Internet Security Suite, and the ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite. The McAfee product and both of the two Norton products flagged Automatic Updates as a security problem if it was disabled, and provided ways to turn it back on, but none of them changed the setting. The ZoneAlarm suite did not note a disabled copy of AU as a problem, nor did it change the setting.

At this point, Windows Live OneCare appears to be the only major security package that changes users’ preferences without notice.

If you have more information, we’d love to hear about it. Readers receive a gift certificate for a book, CD, or DVD of their choice for sending tips we print. Send us your tips via the Windows Secrets contact page.

Scott Dunn is associate editor of the Windows Secrets Newsletter. He has been a contributing editor of PC World since 1992 and currently writes for the magazine’s Here’s How section.

 
Known Issues

U3 flash drives rendered useless on some PCs

Virginia Culler 1 U3 flash drives rendered useless on some PCs By Virginia Culler

Readers are adding more weight to our less-than-glowing reviews of U3 flash software.

Many corporate IT administrators block U3 use completely, so if you use USB flash drives at work, you may want to avoid this platform.

Locked networks make U3 a bad fit

Associate editor Scott Dunn on Oct. 18 reviewed free, downloadable suites of “portable software” that you can run directly from flash drives. In a related, Oct. 11 review of flash drives themselves, he wrote, “Don’t base your drive choice on U3,” recommending non-U3 drives that are faster and have greater capacity at a lower price.

Several readers wrote to inform us that, at their corporate workplaces, U3 drives are unworkable or banned due to certain behaviors in the software. Derek Douglas says:
  • “One drawback of U3 drives is that they try to install their software on the PC they’re connected to. Our company’s network is locked down to stop unauthorised software being installed onto PCs on the network. This therefore renders U3 drives useless and prevents you from displaying your big presentation, unless you saved a backup copy somewhere other than your U3 drive.”
While Scott’s article emphasized using flash drives on public computers rather than workplace ones, the U3 software-install behavior can still cause problems if you use a USB drive at an Internet café with similar security measures in place. Reader Ian Lucas writes to say, however, that he’s tested other portable apps on flash drives and they don’t present this problem.

If you do wish to use a U3 drive (or you’ve already bought one), reader Melvin Lewis suggests a free utility called Package Factory that can convert some regular programs to the .u3p format that’s used by U3 drives. The documentation for this utility gives the disclaimer that it works best with simple applications that don’t have many support files.

Comcast readers receive bounce notices

Most of our subscribers who use Comcast.net e-mail addresses saw bounce messages last week. Some users of this Internet service provider, however, received the newsletter with no problem. We’re working with Comcast and our e-mail broadcast service to prevent the ISP from bouncing our newsletters again.

In the meantime, please remember that you can always access the free version of the newsletter on the Web. Paid subscribers can read all paid content on our Web site by logging in with their e-mail address and reader number, which is shown at the top and bottom of every newsletter. We apologize for any inconvenience the Comcast bounces caused.

Readers Douglas, Lucas, and Lewis will each receive a gift certificate for a book, CD, or DVD of their choice for sending tips we printed. Send us your tips via the Windows Secrets contact page.

The Known Issues column brings you readers’ comments on our recent articles. Virginia Culler is managing editor of WindowsSecrets.com.

 
Wacky Web Week

Global crash reveals modern Internet addiction

W071025 Onion Newscaster Global crash reveals modern Internet addiction  Ever wonder what it would take to crash the Internet? In the Onion’s mock newscast, we see what it would take to stop the World Wide Web and the repercussions such a catastrophe would have on mankind.

The famous tongue-in-cheek reportage of Onion brings to life the awful consequences of a Web-free world: just think of the panic-stricken citizenry reduced from electronic surfing to … reading books? Play the video

 
LangaList Plus

Part five: big power supplies need good fans

Fred Langa 1 Part five: big power supplies need good fans By Fred Langa

In today’s Housecall, I help a Toronto reader choose and install a new power supply, focusing on the merits of large, slow fans over small, fast ones.

On the way there, I indulged my historical imagination as I traversed the vast expanses of the Canadian plains and enjoyed views of the Great Lakes.


Canadian plains hint at icy prehistoric past

So far, in the recounting of my past four columns, you’ve seen how to use some free, powerful tools to declutter a PC and speed boot times; how to resolve an address conflict on a small network; how to test the basic security of an Internet connection; how to reduce the size of areas where enormous numbers of junk files can quietly accumulate; and how some very popular software can ruin the performance of some PCs. If you missed the earlier installments, you can go back and catch up on Parts One, Two, Three, and Four.

The Canadian plains seemed endless as I rode eastward across the unvarying flatness. But this Euclidean scenery was one of the things I wanted to see. These plains were the floors of ice-age glacial lakes, such as Lake Agassiz and Lake Missoula — truly enormous bodies of fresh water.

For example, imagine a fresh-water lake as large as the entire state of California. That was Lake Agassiz: it covered the Canadian and northern U.S. plains across an area some 700 miles (1,100 km) long and 250 miles (400 km) wide. It was 700 feet deep and drained an area of nearly half a million square miles (1.3 million km²). In short, it was huge!

When Lake Agassiz’s glacial ice dams melted and broke for the last time around 8,000 years ago, the vast lake released a long-lasting deluge of nearly unimaginable volume. The flood of ice water was so great it may have actually cooled the entire Earth by chilling the Atlantic Ocean and altering its circulation.

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Woody's Windows

My must-have tools for Windows users

Woody Leonhard 1 My must have tools for Windows users By Woody Leonhard

I just finished installing a whole passel of new PCs — both XP and Vista — and faced, once again, the age-old question: What do you really need on a new PC?

After thrashing this over with copious co-conspirators, I narrowed the choices down to a small handful.


Don’t overcrowd your PC with tiny utilities

I just checked CNET’s download page and discovered about 65,000 different utilities clamoring for attention. Tucows claims more than 40,000. Once upon a time, writing small utilities was a cottage industry. Now it’s more like a nation full of cottage industries.

As I explained in my previous must-have list on Mar. 2, 2006, I don’t use many Windows utilities day-to-day. I read about them, talk to friends about them, keep up on the latest and greatest. But I don’t install new ones very often, and I keep only a small percentage of the ones I download.

Truth be told, I don’t like to have a lot of utilities lying around. They tend to gum things up and make me think more than I need to. Give me one good Swiss Army Knife utility that almost solves dozens of problems I hit every day, and I’ll take it over a ragtag melange of programs with overlapping features and completely unrelated interfaces.

When confronted with a simple problem, I don’ t have the time or energy (or gray cells) to figure out if I should fire up Utility A and click here, here, here, and here; or Utility B and click there, there, there, and there. Life’s too short.

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Perimeter Scan

Driver Detective finds outdated software

Ryan Russell 1 Driver Detective finds outdated software By Ryan Russell

You can avoid potential problems by keeping your Windows drivers up to date, and Driver Detective is my favorite way to do just that.

In other news, readers have given me pointers for antirootkit resources, which I’m happy to share with you.


The best way to update those old device files

Readers may have noticed that I usually like to write about security tools, and generally prefer free ones. Breaking with tradition, I’d like to talk about Driver Detective, which is a commercial nonsecurity tool that I’ve been happily using for years. In short, it’s a utility that scans your system for hardware drivers and compares them against a database that the company maintains. The program then reports which ones are out of date and gives you download locations.

W071025 Driver Dectective Driver Detective finds outdated software
Figure 1. Driver Detective specifies hardware drivers that should be replaced with newer versions and tells you where to download them from.

I know I usually shy away from saying that something I write is a full review, and note that it doesn’t represent an endorsement by Windows Secrets. But I’m happy to personally endorse this tool. And no, I haven’t been compensated in any way. I bought my own copy.

The licensing terms are quite reasonable. The developers want U.S. $29.95 for use on up to 10 machines. (Larger licenses are available if you need them.) Driver Detective works on Windows 2000 or later, on 32- and 64-bit versions, including Vista. It also includes a “Vista Ready?” wizard, which tells you if your hardware is up to snuff for Vista.

Yes, I realize that there is sometimes overlap between security updates and driver updates. But I use Driver Detective because I’m one of those people who obsesses over having all his software updated all the time.

Burn .iso images to disc the easy way

In future columns, I’ll be launching back into heavy-duty security tools. So please indulge me in one more non-security-related tool (though happily, free). It’s ISO Recorder by Alex Feinman.

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