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    Samsung 850 Pro SSD vs Samsung 960 MvMe M.2

    Hey Y'all,

    I need a little advice. Just received my new Dell XPS 8920 i7-7770 w/16 Gb DDR4 2400, NVIDIA 1050Ti w/ 4Gb DDR5.

    So I've been researching the Samsung 850 Pro SSD vs Samsung 960 Pro MvMe M.2. I know the M.2 is blazingly fast but I'm wondering if it is worth the price and heat penalty?

    From what I've read I wouldn't notice much difference unless I'm reading/writing very large files. I don't game and do mostly Excel/Access VBA and PowerShell programming as far as things that take up any amount of power.

    So is it worth it to step up to the M.2?

    BTW: The Toshiba HD that came with it is a real sleeper or should that be creeper!
    May the Forces of good computing be with you!

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    If you aren't going to take advantage of the 960 stick with the 850 and pocket the $$$.
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    Personally I agree with Joe. My 850 Pro handles everything I throw at it, excel, etc.
    I'm not a gamer either but I was shocked at how fast the SSD is in comparison to my SATA III HDD. Start-up and shutdown alone was cut in half.
    As Joe said, if you don't need the 960 why spend the extra cash.

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    New toy, lots of $$$, why not go mad and get the 960? It's only money!

    cheers, Paul

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    @RetiredGeek: I have been using the 960 EVO NVME M.2 (500GB) SSD for a while now. (It was purchased to replace an 850 PRO SSD on which I now run my VMs). While it is generally not noticeably faster for normal day-to-day work, I have noticed that it is faster for gaming. When researching it, I was interested to note that the difference between the PRO and the EVO versions of the SAMSUNG NVME M.2 SSD was such that purchasing the "cheaper" EVO was a more practical option than purchasing the PRO. I found this recommendation in a number of product reviews.

    I can confirm that my 960 EVO NVME M.2 runs relatively hot (compared to the 850 SSD). (See screen shot below).

    Note, if you decide to go the SAMSUNG NVME M.2 route, SAMSUNG suggests you only use their own driver for this SSD (this is ensured via the latest version of Samsung Magician which I always run every time I boot up).

    I attach screen shots (from Hard Disk Sentinel) of the two disks as they are right now to show the temperature differences between the two SSDs:

    Screen Shot 08-10-17 at 02.08 PM.JPG

    The highest temperature on the M.2 SSD was recorded whilst gaming

    Screen Shot 08-10-17 at 02.17 PM.JPG

    The highest temperature recorded on the 850 PRO was whilst gaming before purchasing the M.2 SSD

    My system is a well-ventilated desktop; how the heat issue will play out in a laptop, I have no idea.
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    Why not set your sights just a little higher?

    Just recently announced have been:
    * 30TB 2.5-inch SSD from Toshiba
    * 50TB 3.5-inch SSDs from Viking and SMART Modular Technologies
    * 128TB SSD coming from Samsung

    You know you are going to take more photos, so why not plan for this?
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    BATcher,

    Photos don't sit on the computer they live on the NAS! My current Data directory is only 35.53 GB, and that's decades of accumulation! Guess I'm just not that much of a pack rat.

    I've ordered 2 256GB Samsung 850 Pro's, love that 10 year warranty, one for the OS & Programs and the other for Data. Should last me for the time I have left on the planet since I've only accumulated 35.53GB in the last 38 years starting with my TRS-80 Model 1 in 1979.
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    As heat is the enemy of longevity I would stick to the 850.

    cheers, Paul

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    34 doesn't seem that high.
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    No, but a max of 68 is too high relative to 48 for the 850.

    cheers, Paul

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    Excellent and informative video about NvMe vs SATA SSD's and also brands:
    NVMe SSD Review - Which Should You Buy? - 2017 Edition
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqaZ...s_digest-vrecs

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    @lumpy95: Many thanks, an interesting and very well presented review.
    (My Setup: Custom built: 4.00GHz Intel Core i7-6700K CPU; MSI Z170A Gaming Carbon Mobo (Military Class V); Win 10 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 16GB RAM; 500GB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; 512GB SAMSUNG 850 PRO SSD; Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA6G HDD; 2 X GeForceGTX 1070 8GB Graphics Card (SLI); Office 2016 Prof "Click to Run" (32-bit); Acronis TI 2017 Premium, Norton Internet Security, VMWare Workstation12 Pro). WD My Book 3 1TB USB External Backup Drive). Samsung 24" Curved HD Monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petesmst View Post
    @lumpy95: Many thanks, an interesting and very well presented review.
    Your welcome

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